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Vice Verse [Not-So-Great Jesus] Part 1

2020.11.14 20:05 Vohems Vice Verse [Not-So-Great Jesus] Part 1

(Credit to u/MysteriousTomatoe123 for finding this)
I'm going to attempt to make several posts in the attempt to refute/debunk etc. this. If you think I've gotten anything wrong please do inform me.
​(Warning: long)
"A chariot of fire and horses of fire appeared... and Elijah went up to heaven in a whirlwind."
2 Kings 2:11, Bible (NIV)
VS."[Jesus said]: No one has ever gone into heaven except the one who came from heaven — the Son of Man [Jesus]."
John 3:13, Bible (NIV)
Jesus has a short memory.
The context of John 3:13 is Jesus's talk with Nicodemus. Here he is explaining his authority on the matter of heavenly things such as salvation. Also, the NLT (New Living Translation) renders it as such: No one has ever gone to heaven and returned. But the Son of Man has come down from heaven.
However this could just be an issue of semantics as when Elijah was taken up he could gone eleswhere than heaven: https://www.blueletterbible.org/faq/don_stewart/don_stewart_150.cfm
"Do not think that I [Jesus] have come to abolish the Law or the Prophets"
Matthew 5:17, Bible (NIV)
"It is easier for heaven and earth to disappear than for the least stroke of a pen to drop out of the Law."
Luke 16:17, Bible (NIV)
Jesus says he's not canceling the rules of the Old Testament. So, when are you going to, say, stop doing anything on Saturdays and start killing those who do, as the biblical law commands in Exodus 35:2?
Luke 16:16-17
16 The law and the prophets were until John: since that time the kingdom of God is preached, and every man presseth into it.
17 And it is easier for heaven and earth to pass, than one tittle of the law to fail.
Matthew 5:17-18
17 “Do not think that I have come to abolish the Law or the Prophets; I have not come to abolish them but to fulfill them. 18 For truly I tell you, until heaven and earth disappear, not the smallest letter, not the least stroke of a pen, will by any means disappear from the Law until everything is accomplished.
It would seem there's a time limit on the law.
Matthew 5:21-22 (He put 23 instead for some reason)
21 You have heard that it was said to the ancients, ‘Do not murder’ and ‘Anyone who murders will be subject to judgment.’ 22 But I tell you that anyone who is angry with a brother or sister will be subject to judgment. Again, anyone who says to a brother or sister, 'Raca,' is answerable to the court. And anyone who says, 'You fool!' will be in danger of the fire of hell.
This isn't about actually saying 'fool' but rather the attitude and heart it is said with. You can call someone a fool in truth, especially if they actually are. It was a expansion or revealing upon what was previously, namely do not murder.
"Look at the birds of the air; they do not sow or reap or store away in barns, and yet your heavenly Father feeds them."
Matthew 6:26, Bible (NIV)
"Are not two sparrows sold for a penny? Yet not one of them will fall to the ground outside your Father's care."
Matthew 10:29, Bible (NIV)
Jesus thinks that his heavenly dad does a good job feeding and caring for the birds. But in reality, the majority of the birds die before they reach maturity. As for sparrows in particular, under "Father's care" 75-80% of sparrows hatched do not survive to their first breeding season. Then 35%-55% of survived adults die each year.
Jesus didn't say that they're survival was absolute. In fact he states the opposite. 'Not one will fall outside of His care.' not 'None will fall.' Everything is within God's care. That doesn't mean everything will always survive. It was making a statement of God caring about his creation and the small things within it. That's why he said 'Are not two sparrows sold for a penny?' Two nearly worthless things in Jewish culture, yet God cares.
"When Jesus heard this, he was amazed"
Matthew 8:10 = Luke 7:9, Bible (NIV)
Not-so-all-knowing Jesus. You can't get amazed by hearing something you already know.
As u/53mv pointed out in the comments of the original post:
Why can't you marvel or be impressed by something you already know? I already know what a proboscis monkey looks like yet I'm still amazed by their noses. This is just silly!
I'm personally amazed by Siamangs, but to each his own.
"These twelve [disciples] Jesus sent out with the following instructions: 'Do not go among the Gentiles or enter any town of the Samaritans. Go rather to the lost sheep of Israel. As you go, proclaim this message: "The kingdom of heaven has come near." Heal the sick, raise the dead, cleanse those who have leprosy, drive out demons.'"
Matthew 10:5-8, Bible (NIV)
Jesus wasn't interested in helping anyone except those from his favorite nation.
You mean his chosen people? The ones he made promises to? The ones he's trying to call back to himself? This objection shows a lack of overall understanding of Biblical themes. Besides, miracles are later done to the Gentiles, and more over this objection makes no sense as just because miracles are being done for the Jews right now, doesn't mean miracles won't be done for the Gentiles later.
"If anyone will not welcome you [the disciples] or listen to your words... Truly I [Jesus] tell you, it will be more bearable for Sodom and Gomorrah on the day of judgment than for that town."
Matthew 10:14-15, Bible (NIV); similar: Mark 6:11, Luke 10:10-12
Jesus continues his father's course, planning to severely punish people for having a different opinion.
If Christianity is true than that means that these towns were not opting for a 'different opinion' (whatever that means) but for damnation.
That's all for now. If you see an issue with anything here, please do point it out.
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2020.11.14 06:58 okJesus Stay faithful believers, Jesus loves you more than you could ever imagine. (Please Read if you have the time ❤️)

Hey guys,
This is a message for the beloved fighters who are more than conquerors through Christ. Yes, I’m talking to the people who are mentally drained from their distressing unwanted thoughts and even if you may not realize it, Jesus loves you with an everlasting love.
In this post I would like to share my experience with intrusive thoughts and how Jesus was with me every step of the way. It’s a bit long but please read if you need encouragement and insight from someone who has battled with this and came out stronger all thanks to Jesus Christ my Lord and Savior. I can honestly say that I’m undeserving but all the more the thankful for what God has done in my life.
A couple months back when I first started getting these disturbing and unwanted thoughts, I honestly would have never imagined myself to be in such a great situation as I am now. At my lowest I kept feeding and stressing over these thoughts to the point where I thought it was over for me multiple times, yet Jesus kept showing and surrounding me with His unfailing love. It was one day when I was in prayer talking with God in His Holy presence about my mental health and I heard a beautiful soft whisper saying “My Grace is sufficient for you, for my power is made perfect in weakness” and I instantly started to begin to cry tears of joy because I knew right there He understands my pain. Hallelujah! Praise be to the Glory of our God!
I know how it feels to be in that storm, all the miserable days where I felt trapped in the prison of my mind and I thought I would never make it out. The restless nights of condemnation and feeling like these thoughts robbed me of my faith. Everyday was me battling against unwanted thoughts and it felt like I was losing my mind. In fact, I would read these reddit posts, such as this one, of people getting better and I would think if that were to ever happen to me? Well, now I can officially say that by the perfect steadfast love, faithfulness, grace, long suffering, and great mercy that is the praiseworthy character of God, I am in a much better place now than I ever was before. What a blessing it is to have a such an amazing God. I’m not saying I understand everyone’s exact situation, because we all face our own hardships in this life, but I do know that God does, and he has already given you the victory through his only begotten son, Jesus Christ. (NLT) John 16:33 “I have told you all this so that you may have peace in me. Here on earth you will have many trials and sorrows. But take heart, because I have overcome the world.” When Jesus Christ died on the cross for all of humanity’s sins, He overcame the world and saved us from God’s wrath, the eternal punishment that we ALL deserve. God’s love for us was displayed on the cross, this is the ultimate sacrifice that was to redeem mankind of its sinful nature. There is nothing that any human could ever do to deserve this, rather it was only God’s love and mercy that allowed this to take place. (NLT) John 3:16 “For this is how God loved the world: He gave his one and only Son, so that everyone who believes in him will not perish but have eternal life.” On top of accepting the free gift of salvation made available by God’s Grace through faith, everyone who believes in Him could also have peace through Him in all the trials we face in this lifetime. So, is life easy? absolutely not. Has God given you the victory in this life and the everlasting life through believing in Jesus Christ? Yes, He absolutely has.
(ESV) Isaiah 40:8 “Have you not known? Have you not heard? The Lord is the everlasting God, the Creator of the ends of the earth. He does not faint or grow weary; his understanding is unsearchable.” For the people that think they are alone because of their thoughts, don’t think for a second that no one knows what you are going through. God understands the pain and He knows all of the problems we deal with, He created you, has called you to this purpose in Jesus Christ, and is able to protect you, so trust in HIM. None of us are truly able to do deal with life’s battles on our own strength, because we will fail every time, but that is the essence of our faith in Jesus Christ, our absolute need of the Lord and Savior of the world. We must rely on HIS strength and trust in Jesus alone. This means reading the word, being honest in prayer, being in worship, fasting when necessary, being obedient to His voice/word and striving to always focus on Jesus regardless of how things may look. I know it may be a little overwhelming at times with these thoughts but please keep praying. Prayer to our Heavenly Father is so powerful. View it as a communication that isn’t stressful, but as a peaceful conversation with God, who is love, who is your creator, and who is always there with you; and wants the best for you.
Lastly, I know how frightening these thoughts may be and how sometimes you just want to give up and walk away, but please, if you’re reading this, don’t give up on God, because he won’t give up on you. Please keep pushing forward and know that if you’re breathing, God has a plan and purpose in your life. I’m not saying I have a perfect thought life, because I don’t, but I’m saying that God will help you and His grace is sufficient for you. While you may hear that lie of a voice in your head saying that you’re done for and there is no hope, know that Jesus is that hope and he is welcoming you with His unfailing love towards you and all of your circumstances. He is the way, the truth, and the life. He is the light of the world. He is the answer to all of our problems. God bless all of you and PM me if you have any prayer requests or want to talk. Praise Jesus Christ!
(Here are some helpful Bible Verses that can encourage you as you keep them close to your heart. These and many other faithful promises in the word of God are your armor and protection. Once you accept Jesus Christ as your Lord and Savior, you should know your identity in Christ and allow God to define you, not anything else):
(NIV) Psalm 139:13-14 For you created my inmost being; you knit me together in my mother’s womb. I praise you because I am fearfully and wonderfully made; your works are wonderful, I know that full well.
(NIV) John 10:28-29 I give them eternal life, and they shall never perish; no one will snatch them out of my hand. My Father, who has given them to me, is greater than all; no one can snatch them out of my Father’s hand.
Bible verses about your firm Identity in Christ
For more on your Identity in Christ
(NIV) 2 Corinthians 12:8-10 Three times I pleaded with the Lord to take it away from me. But he said to me, “My grace is sufficient for you, for my power is made perfect in weakness.” Therefore I will boast all the more gladly about my weaknesses, so that Christ’s power may rest on me. That is why, for Christ’s sake, I delight in weaknesses, in insults, in hardships, in persecutions, in difficulties. For when I am weak, then I am strong.
(NLT) Romans 8:31:39 Nothing Can Separate Us from God’s Love 31 What shall we say about such wonderful things as these? If God is for us, who can ever be against us? 32 Since he did not spare even his own Son but gave him up for us all, won’t he also give us everything else? 33 Who dares accuse us whom God has chosen for his own? No one—for God himself has given us right standing with himself. 34 Who then will condemn us? No one—for Christ Jesus died for us and was raised to life for us, and he is sitting in the place of honor at God’s right hand, pleading for us.
35 Can anything ever separate us from Christ’s love? Does it mean he no longer loves us if we have trouble or calamity, or are persecuted, or hungry, or destitute, or in danger, or threatened with death? 36 (As the Scriptures say, “For your sake we are killed every day; we are being slaughtered like sheep.”[a]) 37 No, despite all these things, overwhelming victory is ours through Christ, who loved us.
38 And I am convinced that nothing can ever separate us from God’s love. Neither death nor life, neither angels nor demons,[b] neither our fears for today nor our worries about tomorrow—not even the powers of hell can separate us from God’s love. 39 No power in the sky above or in the earth below—indeed, nothing in all creation will ever be able to separate us from the love of God that is revealed in Christ Jesus our Lord.
For More on God’s love
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2020.11.10 22:24 Ez3k1el Marriage (Long Post)

Hello brothers and sisters, I hope and pray that the Lord Jesus has continued to help you and sustain you during this time, especially given the election here in America. Today I'd like to share with you a lesson that the Lord Jesus has imparted unto me during my own time of struggle and tribulation. Something that actually surprised me. In large part this concerns marriage and primarily 1 Corinthians 7:8-9. The things I am about to put here may be slightly offensive, but I pray that perhaps you may look beyond that to something that I think God has given us as a fundamental aspect of understanding if we should marry or not.
Now for 1 Corinthians 7:8-9, "So I say to those who aren't married and to widows--it's better to stay unmarried, just as I am. But if they can't control themselves, they should go ahead and marry. It's better to marry than to burn with lust."
So here we have two commands, in a sense, given the wisdom that God gave to Paul. I think the struggle is, as Paul puts it, "I want you to be free from the concerns of this life. An unmarried man can spend his time doing the Lord's work and thinking how to please him. But a married man has to think about his earthly responsibilities and how to please his wife. His interests are divided. In the same way, a woman who is no longer married or has never been married can be devoted to the Lord and holy in body and in spirit. But a married woman has to think about her earthly responsibilities and how to please her husband. I am saying this for your own benefit, not to place restrictions on you. I want you to do whatever will help you serve the Lord best, with as few distractions as possible." (1 Corinthians 7:32-35, NLT) So one would be forgiven for thinking that singleness is the ideal, which seems to be the case here, though Paul goes on to say if a man marries it is not a sin. Then we look back at 1 Corinthians 7:9 where we are told that it is better to marry than to burn with lust. So which is it? I can imagine the feeling of going stir crazy and indecision in something like this and I can sympathize and empathize with those of you who are having trouble with this. So... There are two passages from commentaries on this passage that I want to share with you, and I think it will be very helpful to many of you who are struggling with this.
The first (which will be in two halves where I'll try to help you understand the meaning with God's help, though it may be clear and understandable on its own) comes from a commentary from Matthew Henry on 1 Corinthians 7:
"Note, Persons expose themselves to great danger by attempting to perform what is above their strength, and at the same time not bound upon them by any law of God. If they abstain from lawful enjoyments, they may be ensnared into unlawful ones. The remedies God hath provided against sinful inclinations are certainly best. III. The apostle limits what he had said about every man’s having his own wife, etc. (v. 2): I speak this by permission, not of command. He did not lay it as an injunction upon every man to marry without exception. Any man might marry. No law of God prohibited the thing. But, on the other hand, not law bound a man to marry so that he sinned if he did not; I mean, unless his circumstances required it for preventing the lust of uncleanness. It was a thing in which men, by the laws of God, were in a great measure left at liberty. And therefore Paul did not bind every man to marry, though every man had an allowance. No, he could wish all men were as himself (v. 7), that is, single, and capable of living continently in that state."
The first three sentences I think are probably the best statements I have come across in commenting on this chapter in 1 Corinthians, but also concerning verse 8 and 9. Have we ever thought about this? How we expose ourselves to great danger by running ahead of God trying to do what is above our own strength, especially things that the Scriptures do not explicitly command us to do? Have we also thought of how we may abstain from pleasures that God says are good and a way of relating to Him with joy and enjoyment, then allow for ourselves to get ensnared into illicit pleasures that lead us away from God. Thus allowing ourselves to enjoy the legitimate pleasures God has ordained by His grace through faith in Him through Jesus Christ and the power of the Holy Spirit will keep us from being ensnared into illicit ones. Next we notice that Matthew Henry points out that Paul here is not giving us a set of laws to abide by, but a reality to live in by trusting in God, and the reality is that some men and women have physical desires for each other that can at first be innocent enough, but may develop into full feelings of love and compassion for one another, and so should marry after an obvious appointed time of getting to know one another and preparing for said marriage. However, if these passions are not enacted upon in God's appointed way and are left outside God's will and intention for marriage and marriage itself, will eventually lead towards adultery. Strange is it not? We're told we don't have to marry, but it may actually be best for those of us who cannot restrain our sexual desires for a woman if we are a man, or a man if we are a woman, and so find freedom and enjoyment and healing in Christ. Even those of us who have homosexual inclinations can find freedom and healing in the Lord Jesus by allowing Him to help us understand that marriage is between a man and a woman, and that such inclinations can be reversed and made heterosexual again by His power in the Holy Spirit. Yes, there is also the fact that God could be calling us into singleness too (even those with homosexual inclinations). Paul, as Matthew Henry points out (and will in the second half), is simply saying it is for those to whom that particular gift, marriage or singleness, is given by God in His provision of grace and taking into effect our own desires and will rather than something we ourselves assert or grasp entirely through our own will devoid of God's wisdom and will.
"There were several conveniences in it, which at that season, if not at others, made it more eligible in itself. Note, It is a mark of true goodness to wish all men as happy as ourselves. But it did not answer the intentions of divine Providence as well for all men to have as much command of this appetite as Paul had. It was a gift vouchsafed to such persons as Infinite Wisdom thought proper: Every one hath his proper gift of God, one after this manner and another after that. Natural constitutions vary; and, where there may not be much difference in the constitution, different degrees of grace are vouchsafed, which may give some a greater victory over natural inclination than others. Note, The gifts of God, both in nature and grace, are variously distributed. Some have them after this manner and some after that. Paul could wish all men were as himself, but all men cannot receive such a saying, save those to whom it is given, Mt. 19:11 .IV. He sums up his sense on this head (v. 9, v. 10): I say therefore to the unmarried and widows, to those in a state of virginity or widowhood, It is good for them if they abide even as I. There are many conveniences, and especially at this juncture, in a single state, to render it preferable to a married one. It is convenient therefore that the unmarried abide as I, which plainly implies that Paul was at that time unmarried. But, if they cannot contain, let them marry; for it is better to marry than to burn. This is God’s remedy for lust. The fire may be quenched by the means he has appointed. And marriage, with all its inconveniences, is much better than to burn with impure and lustful desires. Marriage is honourable in all; but it is a duty in those who cannot contain nor conquer those inclinations."
Here we see what I was mentioning above, in talking about God's gift of grace and provision for us in regards to marriage to help us find a legitimate outlet, within the context of a loving relationship with Himself and our spouse, for sexual conduct. Now I do wish to touch on something here and it is this: This does not mean that a man or woman who has a history of sexually abusing others should marry and abuse their spouse in order to satisfy their desires. Why? Because God doesn't command such a thing, and all of you reading this should know that. Also, because God would want that man or woman to seek His help in healing and to repent of their sins and ask for and receive His forgiveness in Christ, before He would ever want them to have the chance to marry. There is also the aspect of identity, which our identity in Christ does not depend on being married or not, the various relationships we have between the things of this world and the people in it are primarily an outworking of the inner reality of faith in Christ through the power of the Holy Spirit. As such we are able, by God's grace, guidance, and power in the Holy Spirit, to determine that which is sacred and that which is profane.
The second passage comes from John Calvin on the same chapter, which I'm sure some of you may be weary of reading, but I assure you that he actually has some valuable insights on this passage with the wisdom God afforded him (again in two halves):
"As he had spoken of fornication, he now appropriately proceeds to speak of marriage which is the remedy for avoiding fornication. Now it appears, that, notwithstanding the greatly scattered state of the Corinthian Church, they still retained some respect for Paul, inasmuch as they consulted him on doubtful points. What their questions had been is uncertain, except in so far as we may gather them from his reply. This, however, is perfectly well known, that immediately after the first rise of the Church, there crept into it, through Satan's artifice, a superstition of such a kind, that a large proportion of them, through a foolish admiration of celibacy, [367] despised the sacred connection of marriage; nay more, many regarded it with abhorrence, as a profane thing. This contagion had perhaps spread itself among the Corinthians also; or at least there were idly-disposed spirits, who, by immoderately extolling celibacy, endeavored to alienate the minds of the pious from marriage."
Here is the beginning section of Calvin's commentary, a bit more articulate than Matthew Henry in wording. Here we notice in the beginning sentence that marriage is a way of avoiding fornication (or adultery/sexual immorality in our common parlance of today), much as Matthew Henry pointed out and Paul did as well, but again I point back to the previous statement I made that God does not intend sexually abusive persons to marry in order to somehow make their abusiveness 'lawful'. I suggest reading about God's standard for marriage again, and you can start with Ephesians 5. Anyway, we also see the mention of the foolish idolization of celibacy as some pious form of spiritual discipline (though celibacy until marriage can be a discipline given by the Holy Spirit, but this deals with the context of whether or not someone is being called by God to marriage or not). The particular idea that this persistent false belief has engendered originates, by appearances at least, with what is known as Platonic spirituality. Which strictly says that only the spirit is valuable and that anything that, according to their view, indulges our fleshly desires is wrong and should be denied. The focus is heavily on what is spiritual to the point that the spiritual aspects of physical life are denied, much to the impoverishment of the individual. This is where you get people saying that sex is unholy and profane and the like, but it is precisely because sex is holy that it is put within the bounds of a marriage relationship sealed by God between a man and a woman, and why some, no matter how much they abstain from sexual images and temptations, may still find themselves burning with passion for the opposite sex (or in extreme cases with homosexual intentions due to confusion of identity both psychologically and physically, though these can be healed significantly by God and a heterosexual sensitivity restored, though temptations may still remain). This leads to the next part:
"1. It is good for a man. The answer consists of two parts. In the first, he teaches that it were good for every one to abstain from connection with a woman, provided it was in his power to do so. In the second, he subjoins a correction to this effect, that as many cannot do this, in consequence of the weakness of their flesh, these persons must not neglect the remedy which they have in their power, as appointed for them by the Lord. Now we must observe what he means by the word good, when he declares that it is good to abstain from marriage, that we may not conclude, on the other hand, that the marriage connection is therefore evil -- a mistake which Jerome has fallen into, not so much from ignorance, in my opinion, as from the heat of controversy. For though that great man was endowed with distinguished excellences, he labored, at the same time, under one serious defect, that when disputing he allowed himself to be hurried away into great extravagancies, so that he did not keep within the bounds of truth. The inference then which he draws is this "It is good not to touch a woman: it is therefore wrong to do so." [368] Paul, however, does not make use of the word good here in such a signification as to be opposed to what is evil or vicious, but simply points out what is expedient on account of there being so many troubles, vexations, and anxieties that are incident to married persons. Besides, we must always keep in view the limitation which he subjoins. Nothing farther, therefore, can be elicited from Paul's words than this -- that it is indeed expedient and profitable for a man not to be bound to a wife, provided he can do otherwise. Let us explain this by a comparison. Should any one speak in this way: "It were good for a man not to eat, or to drink, or to sleep" -- he would not thereby condemn eating, or drinking, or sleeping, as things that were wrong -- but as the time that is devoted to these things is just so [369] much taken from the soul, his meaning would be, that we would be happier if we could be free from these hindrances, and devote ourselves wholly [370] to meditation on heavenly things. Hence, as there are in married life many impediments which keep a man entangled, it were on that account good not to be connected in marriage.
But here another question presents itself, for these words of Paul have some appearance of inconsistency with the words of the Lord, in Genesis 2:18, where he declares, that it is not good for a man to be without a wife. What the Lord there pronounces to be evil Paul here declares to be good I answer, that in so far as a wife is a help to her husband, so as to make his life happy, that is in accordance with God's institution; for in the beginning God appointed it so, that the man without the woman was, as it were, but half a man, and felt himself destitute of special and necessary assistance, and the wife is, as it were, the completing of the man. Sin afterwards came in to corrupt that institution of God; for in place of so great a blessing there has been substituted a grievous punishment, so that marriage is the source and occasion of many miseries. Hence, whatever evil or inconvenience there is in marriage, that arises from the corruption of the divine institution. Now, although there are in the meantime some remains still existing of the original blessing, so that a single life is often much more unhappy than the married life; yet, as married persons are involved in many inconveniences, it is with good reason that Paul teaches that it would be good for a man to abstain. In this way, there is no concealment of the troubles that are attendant upon marriage; and yet, in the meantime, there is no countenance given to those profane jests which are commonly in vogue with a view to bring it into discredit, such as the following: that a wife is a necessary evil, and that a wife is one of the greatest evils. For such sayings as these have come from Satan's workshop, and have a direct tendency to brand with disgrace God's holy institution; and farther, to lead men to regard marriage with abhorrence, as though it were a deadly evil and pest.
The sum is this, that we must remember to distinguish between the pure ordinance of God and the punishment of sin, which came in subsequently. According to this distinction, it was in the beginning good for a man, without any exception, to be joined to a wife, and even yet, it is good in such a way, that there is in the meantime a mixture of bitter and sweet, in consequence of the curse of God. To those, however, who have not the gift of continency, it is a necessary and salutary remedy in accordance with what follows.
  1. But to avoid fornication He now commands, that those who are liable to the vice of incontinency should have recourse to the remedy. For though it may seem that the statement is universal, it ought, nevertheless, to be restricted to those who feel themselves urged by necessity. As to this, every one must judge for himself. Whatever difficulty, therefore, is perceived to be in marriage, let all that cannot resist the promptings of their flesh, know that this commandment has been enjoined upon them by the Lord. But it is asked -- "Is this the only reason for entering into matrimony, that we may cure incontinency?" I answer, that this is not Paul's meaning; for as for those that have the gift of abstinence from marriage, he leaves them at liberty, [371] while he commands others to provide against their infirmity by marrying. The sum is this -- that the question is not as to the reasons for which marriage has been instituted, but as to the persons for whom it is necessary. For if we look to the first institution, it could not be a remedy for a disease which had as yet no existence, but was appointed for begetting offspring; but after the fall, this second purpose was added."
I don't have much to add here, because I feel Calvin is pretty clear, except to say that the man Calvin mentions, Jerome, is Saint Jerome. I don't know much about Saint Jerome specifically, but I do know St. Bernard of Clairveaux was along the same line as regards celibacy and I believe it was he who instituted the complete celibacy of priests in the Catholic Church, though I am not entirely sure so I would advise further study on your own to verify or falsify that statement. What Calvin also mentions here is God's intentions for marriage in terms of 'being fruitful and multiplying', and how sin has perverted sexuality.
"6. By permission That they might not, by taking their stand upon a precept of the kind that he had prescribed, loosen unduly the restraints of lust, [380] he adds a limitation -- that he had written these things on account of their infirmity -- that they may bear in mind that marriage is a remedy for unchastity, lest they should inordinately abuse the advantage of it, so as to gratify their desire by every means; nay more, without measure or modesty. He has it also in view to meet the cavils of the wicked, that no one might have it in his power to object in this way: "What! are you afraid that husbands and wives will not of their own accord be sufficiently inclined to carnal delight that you prompt them to it?" For even the Papists, those little saints, [381] are offended with this doctrine, and would gladly have a contest with Paul, on the ground of his keeping married persons in mutual cohabitation, and not allowing them to turn aside to a life of celibacy. He assigns, then, a reason for his doctrine, and declares, that he had not recommended connubial intercourse to married persons with the view of alluring them to delight, or as though he took pleasure in commanding it, but had considered what was required by the infirmity of those that he is addressing.
Foolish zealots [382] for celibacy make a wrong use of both clauses of this verse; for as Paul says that he speaks by permission, they infer from this, that there is therefore something wrong in conjugal intercourse, for where there is need of pardon, [383] there must be sin. Farther, from his saying that he speaks not by commandment, they infer, that it is, therefore, a holier thing to leave off the use of marriage and turn to celibacy. To the former, I answer, that as there is, I acknowledge, an inordinate excess in all human affections, I do not deny that there is as to this matter an irregularity, (ataxia,) [384] which, I allow, is vicious. [385] Nay more, this affection, I allow, is beyond others violent, and next to brutish. But, on the other hand, I also maintain, that whatever there is of vice or baseness, is so covered over by the honorableness of marriage, that it ceases to be a vice, or at least is not reckoned a fault by God, as Augustine elegantly discourses in his book "On the advantage of Marriage," and frequently in other places. You may then take it briefly thus: [386] conjugal intercourse is a thing that is pure, honorable and holy, because it is a pure institution of God: the immoderate desire with which persons burn is a fault arising from the corruption of nature; but in the case of believers marriage is a veil, by which that fault is covered over, so that it no longer appears in the sight of God. To the second I:answer: as the term commandment is properly applied to those things which relate to the duties of righteousness, and things in themselves pleasing to God, Paul on this account says that he does not speak by commandment He has, however, sufficiently shown previously, that the remedy, which he had enjoined, must necessarily be made use of.
  1. For I should wish, that all. This is connected with the exposition of the foregoing statement; for he does not fail to intimate, what is the more convenient way, but he wishes every one to consider what has been given him. [387] Why, then, has he, a little before, spoken not by way of commandment? It is for this reason, that he does not willingly constrain them to marry, but rather desires that they may be free from that necessity. As this, however, is not free to all, he has respect to infirmity. If this passage had been duly weighed, that perverse superstition connected with the desire of celibacy, which is the root and cause of great evils, would never have gained a footing in the world. Paul here expressly declares, that every one has not a free choice in this matter, because virginity is a special gift, that is not conferred upon all indiscriminately. Nor does he teach any other doctrine than what Christ himself does, when he says, that
all men are not capable of receiving this saying.(Matthew 19:11.)
Paul, therefore, is here an interpreter of our Lord's words, when he says that this power has not been given to all -- that of living without marriage.
What, in the meantime, has been done? Every one, without having any regard to his power, has, according to his liking, vowed perpetual continency. Nor has the error as to this matter been confined to the common people and illiterate persons; for even the most eminent doctors, devoting themselves unreservedly to the commendation of virginity, and forgetting human infirmity, have overlooked this admonition of Paul -- nay rather, of Christ himself. Jerome, blinded by a zeal, I know not of what sort, does not simply fall, but rushes headlong, into false views. Virginity, I acknowledge, is an excellent gift; but keep it in view, that it is a gift. Learn, besides, from the mouth of Christ and of Paul, that it is not common to all, but is given only to a few. Guard, accordingly, against rashly devoting what is not in your own power, and what you will not obtain as a gift, if forgetful of your calling you aspire beyond your limits.
At the same time the ancients erred even in their estimate of virginity, for they extol it as if it were the most excellent of all virtues, and wish it to be regarded as the worship of God. [388] Even in this there is a dangerous error; and now follows another -- that, after celibacy had begun to be so much esteemed, many, vying with each other, rashly vowed perpetual continency, while scarcely the hundredth part of them were endowed with the power and gift. Hence, too, a third sprung up -- that the ministers of the Church were forbidden to enter into marriage, as a kind of life unbecoming the holiness of their order. [389] As for those who, despising marriage, rashly vowed perpetual continency, God punished their presumption, first, by the secret flames of lust; [390] and then afterwards, by horrible acts of filthiness. The ministers of the Churches being prohibited from lawful marriage, the consequence of this tyranny was, that the Church was robbed of very many good and faithful ministers; for pious and prudent men would not ensnare themselves in this way. At length, after a long course of time, lusts, which had been previously kept under, gave forth their abominable odor. It was reckoned a small matter for those, in whom it would have been a capital crime to have a wife, to maintain with impunity concubines, that is, prostitutes; but no house was safe from the impurities of the priests. Even that was reckoned a small matter; for there sprung up monstrous enormities, which it were better to bury in eternal oblivion than to make mention of them by way of example. [391]
  1. I say, then, to the unmarried. This depends on what goes before, and is a sort of inference from it. He had said that the gifts of God are variously distributed -- that continency is not in the power of all, and that those who have it not ought to have recourse to the remedy. He now directs his discourse to virgins, to all that are unmarried, and to widows, and he allows that an unmarried life ought to be desired by them, provided they have the power; but that regard must always be had by each individual to the power that he possesses. The sum is this, that an unmarried life has many advantages, and that these are not to be despised, provided every one measures himself according to his own size and measure. [392] Hence, though virginity should be extolled even to the third heavens, this, at the same time, always remains true -- that it does not suit all, but only those who have a special gift from God. For as to the objection that is brought forward by Papists -- that in baptism, also, we promise to God purity of life, which it is not in our power to perform, the answer is easy -- that in that we promise nothing but what God requires from all his people, but that continency is a special gift, which God has withheld from many. Hence those who make a vow of continency, act precisely as if any unlearned and illiterate person were to set himself off as a prophet, or teacher, or interpreter of languages.
We must also notice carefully the word continue; for it is possible for a person to live chastely in a state of celibacy for a time, but there must be in this matter no determination made for tomorrow. Isaac was unmarried until he was thirty years of age, and passed in chastity those years in which the heats of irregular desire are most violent; yet afterwards he is called to enter into the married life. In Jacob we have a still more remarkable instance. Hence the Apostle would wish those who are at present practicing chastity, to continue in it and persevere; but as they have no security for the continuance of the gift, he exhorts all to consider carefully what has been given them. This passage, however, shows that the Apostle was at that time unmarried; for as to the inference drawn by Erasmus, that he was married, because he makes mention of himself in connection with married persons, it is frivolous and silly; for we might, on the same principle, infer that he was a widower, [393] because he speaks of himself in connection with widows. [394] Now the words intimate, that at that time he was unmarried; for I do not give any countenance to the conjecture, that he had put away his wife somewhere, and had of his own accord abandoned the use of the marriage bed. For where, in that case, had been the injunction, [395] Come together again without delay? (1 Corinthians 7:5.) It would certainly be an absurdity to say, that he did not obey his own precepts, and did not observe the law which he imposed upon others. It is, however, a singular token of modesty, that, while he is himself endowed with the gift of continency, he does not require others to bind themselves to his rule, but allows them that remedy for infirmity which he dispenses with. Let us, then, imitate his example, so that if we excel in any particular gift, we do not rigorously insist upon it on the part of others, who have not as yet reached that height.
  1. But if they cannot contain While he advises to abstain from marriage, he always speaks conditionally -- if it can be done, if there is ability; but where the infirmity of the flesh does not allow of that liberty, he expressly enjoins marriage as a thing that is not in the least doubtful. For this is said by way of commandment, that no one may look upon it as mere advice. Nor is it merely fornicators that he restrains, but those also who are defiled in the sight of God by inward lust; and assuredly he that cannot contain tempts God, if he neglects the remedy of marriage. This matter requires -- not advice, but strict prohibition.
For it is better There is not strictly a comparison here, inasmuch as lawful marriage is honorable in all things, (Hebrews 13:4,) but, on the other hand, to burn is a thing that is exceedingly wrong. The Apostle, however, has made use of a customary form of expression, though not strictly accurate, as we commonly say: "It is better to renounce this world that we may, along with Christ, enjoy the inheritance of the heavenly kingdom, than to perish miserably in carnal delights." I mention this, because Jerome constructs upon this passage a childish sophism [396] -- that marriage is good, inasmuch as it is not so great an evil as to burn I would say, if it were a matter of sport, that he foolishly amuses himself, but in a matter so weighty and serious, it is an impious scoff, unworthy of a man of judgment. Let it then be understood, that marriage is a good and salutary remedy, because to burn is a most base abomination in the sight of God. We must, however, define what is meant by burning; for many are stung with fleshly desires, who, nevertheless, do not require forthwith to have recourse to marriage. And to retain Paul's metaphor, it is one thing to burn and another to feel heat. Hence what Paul here calls burning, is not a mere slight feeling, but a boiling with lust, so that you cannot resist. As, however, some flatter themselves in vain, by imagining that they are entirely free from blame, if they do not yield assent to impure desire, observe that there are three successive steps of temptation. For in some cases the assaults of impure desire have so much power that the will is overcome: that is the worst kind of burning, when the heart is inflamed with lust. In some instances, while we are stung with the darts of the flesh, it is in such a manner that we make a stout resistance, and do not allow ourselves to be divested of the true love of chastity, but on the contrary, abhor all base and filthy affections.
Hence all must be admonished, but especially the young, that whenever they are assailed by their fleshly inclinations, they should place the fear of God in opposition to a temptation of this sort, cut off all inlets to unchaste thoughts, entreat the Lord to give them strength to resist, and set themselves with all their might to extinguish the flames of lust. If they succeed in this struggle, let them render thanks unto the Lord, for where shall we find the man who does not experience some molestation from his flesh? but if we bridle its violence, before it has acquired the mastery, it is well. For we do not burn, though we should feel a disagreeable heat -- not that there is nothing wrong in that feeling of heat, but acknowledging before the Lord, with humility and sighing, [397] our weakness, we are meanwhile, nevertheless, of good courage. To sum up all, so long as we come off victorious in the conflict, through the Lord's grace, and Satan's darts do not make their way within, but are valiantly repelled by us, let us not become weary of the conflict.
There is an intermediate kind of temptation [398] -- when a man does not indeed admit impure desire with the full assent of his mind, but at the same time is inflamed with a blind impetuosity, and is harassed in such a manner that he cannot with peace of conscience call upon God. A temptation, then, of such a kind as hinders one from calling upon God in purity, and disturbs peace of conscience, is burning, such as cannot be extinguished except by marriage. We now see, that in deliberating as to this, one must not merely consider whether he can preserve his body free from pollution: the mind also must be looked to, as we shall see in a little."
One aspect here I'd like to point to is Calvin's mention of Isaac not marrying until he was 30 years old, but remaining celibate until then. For those of you are crying out to God for a partner when you're in your late teens and early to mid-twenties, perhaps you ought to consider this: God will not give you a partner until He has gotten you to the point where you are ready for it. How does He do this? By teaching you about marriage and the responsibilities of marriage, and even then when you realize His full standard for marriage can be quite afraid of it in a sense, because we have a responsibility before God to treat our spouses as Christ does the Church, but also a great privilege and gift from God to love our spouses in a sacrificial way and have our wills mesh together.
To finalize this post, I merely want to say, with as much humility before God as I can muster with the power of the Holy Spirit, that we ought to give way for God's will in this matter and to accept it when He tells us we either are to be married or not, and to realize that He would never give us a gift of one or the other except or our own good in relationship with Him. If you think you can ignore the gift of marriage that He wants to give you, and instead continue in celibacy when God didn't give you gift for it through the Holy Spirit... You're fighting against God in this matter and trusting only in yourself, and as it is written, "No, don't say that. Who are you, a mere human being, to argue with God? Should the thing that was created say to the one who created it, "Why have you made me like this?" So as to whether or not you should marry or if you want to marry and aren't sure if you should, consider what God through Paul said in 1 Corinthians 7 and ask yourself whether God intends for you to be married or not, whether you are burning with desire or not, and have peace in the fact that God will give you an answer and have peace in His answer, even if it is not one that you want. Peace be upon you.
Here are the links to the commentaries: https://biblehub.com/commentaries/calvin/1_corinthians/7.htm
https://www.biblestudytools.com/commentaries/matthew-henry-complete/1-corinthians/7.html
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2020.11.05 21:08 ukiyuh Jesus sole commandment: love each other. It's that simple folks. Let's stop dressing it up more than that. This is why Jesus didn't write a book. It's just three words really.

"This is my command: Love each other."

https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=John%2015%3A9-17&version=NLT
John 15:9-17: “I have loved you even as the Father has loved me. Remain in my love. 10 When you obey my commandments, you remain in my love, just as I obey my Father’s commandments and remain in his love. 11 I have told you these things so that you will be filled with my joy. Yes, your joy will overflow! 12 This is my commandment: Love each other in the same way I have loved you. 13 There is no greater love than to lay down one’s life for one’s friends. 14 You are my friends if you do what I command. 15 I no longer call you slaves, because a master doesn’t confide in his slaves. Now you are my friends, since I have told you everything the Father told me. 16 You didn’t choose me. I chose you. I appointed you to go and produce lasting fruit, so that the Father will give you whatever you ask for, using my name. 17 This is my command: Love each other.
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2020.11.05 06:10 JpBlez5 How Christians should live and navigate through and coexist with worldly culture, politics, etc

We should live as exiles.
Christians as usually referred to as exiles or wanders in the Bible, and for good reason too. To be an exile is to be away from ones home. Our true home is in heaven, and when we accept Christ into our hearts, we become citizens of heaven.
But we are citizens of heaven, where the Lord Jesus Christ lives. And we are eagerly waiting for him to return as our Savior. ‭‭Philippians‬ ‭3:20‬ ‭NLT‬‬
But for now we live on Earth waiting to go home, being in the world but not of it, and thus exiles. But how do you live as an exile?
Let’s look to the example of Jeremiah, Daniel, and Jesus.
Back in the Old Testament, the Israelites became exiles after being conquered by the Babylons, and were taken from their homes,. They became a minority, surrounded by fake God’s and a bad culture. Likewise, we live in our own Babylon, living in a world surrounded by idols and ungodly culture. Some joined and embraced this culture while others revolted against it. However the prophet Jeremiah came up with plan c. He told them to take shelter in Babylon and seek its well being, and to even pray to God on their behalf. It was neither compromise nor revolt.
A greater example of this is Daniel. Daniel was an Israelite who was recruited to work in the high courts of Babylon with some friends. They served the Babylonian king and took Babylonain name, following Jeremiah’s advice to seek Babylon’s well being. However, there were moments they drew a line, when upholding they faith in God, and resisting the influence to worship Babylonian Gods. For example, when they was told to bow down to Babylonian Gods or they’d die, they refused to compromise their faith to worldly culture , and God vindicated them. They criticized Babylon for its injustice and arrogance, but did it peacefully. They seeked the well-being of Babylon, but their true loyalty was to God. The way of the exile was a mix of loyalty and subversion.
Now to Jesus: The Babylon of Jesus’ day was Rome. Jesus carried the tradition of the exile during the reign of king Cesar of Rome. Jesus said it alright to pay taxes to Cesar, but don’t give loyalty to him, but only to God. He also criticized the Romans idolatry towards power, and they killed him for it, and he revived vindication from God.
While the true Babylon is long gone, we all still live in a type of Babylon, whether it be society as a whole, or sin. Babylon is a symbol of a human institution demanding allegiance to idolatry redefinition of good and Evil.
So how should we live in society? We are to respect our rulers( 1 Peter 2:13), and to love and seek the well being of all people and society(John 15:12, Isaiah 1:17,) , even our enemies( Matthew 5:44). But our loyalty is alway to be to Jesus above all things. We shouldn’t compromise our faith to worldly culture.
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2020.11.05 06:06 JpBlez5 How Christians should live, navigate through, and coexist with worldly culture, politics, etc

We should live as exiles.
Christians as usually referred to as exiles or wanders in the Bible, and for good reason too. To be an exile is to be away from ones home. Our true home is in heaven, and when we accept Christ into our hearts, we become citizens of heaven.
But we are citizens of heaven, where the Lord Jesus Christ lives. And we are eagerly waiting for him to return as our Savior. ‭‭Philippians‬ ‭3:20‬ ‭NLT‬‬
But for now we live on Earth waiting to go home, being in the world but not of it, and thus exiles. But how do you live as an exile?
Let’s look to the example of Jeremiah, Daniel, and Jesus.
Back in the Old Testament, the Israelites became exiles after being conquered by the Babylons, and were taken from their homes,. They became a minority, surrounded by fake God’s and a bad culture. Likewise, we live in our own Babylon, living in a world surrounded by idols and ungodly culture. Some joined and embraced this culture while others revolted against it. However the prophet Jeremiah came up with plan c. He told them to take shelter in Babylon and seek its well being, and to even pray to God on their behalf. It was neither compromise nor revolt.
A greater example of this is Daniel. Daniel was an Israelite who was recruited to work in the high courts of Babylon with some friends. They served the Babylonian king and took Babylonain name, following Jeremiah’s advice to seek Babylon’s well being. However, there were moments they drew a line, upholding they faith in God, and resisting the influence to worship Babylonian Gods. For example, when they was told to bow down to Babylonian Gods or they’d die, they refused to compromise their faith to worldly culture , and God vindicated them. They criticized Babylon for its injustice and arrogance, but did it peacefully. They seeked the well-being of Babylon, but their true loyalty was to God. The way of the exile was a mix of loyalty and subversion.
Now to Jesus: The Babylon of Jesus’ day was Rome. Jesus carried the tradition of the exile during the reign of king Cesar of Rome. Jesus said it alright to pay taxes to Cesar, but don’t give loyalty to him, but only to God. He also criticized the Romans idolatry towards power, and they killed him for it, and he revived vindication from God.
While the true Babylon is long gone, we all still live in a type of Babylon, whether it be society as a whole, or sin. Babylon is a symbol of a human institution demanding allegiance to idolatry redefinition of good and Evil.
So how should we live in society? We are to respect our rulers( 1 Peter 2:13), and to love and seek the well being of all people and society(John 15:12, Isaiah 1:17,) , even our enemies( Matthew 5:44). But our loyalty is alway to be to Jesus above all things.
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2020.11.05 06:05 JpBlez5 How Christians should live and navigate through and coexist with worldly culture, politics, etc

We should live as exiles.
Christians as usually referred to as exiles or wanders in the Bible, and for good reason too. To be an exile is to be away from ones home. Our true home is in heaven, and when we accept Christ into our hearts, we become citizens of heaven.
But we are citizens of heaven, where the Lord Jesus Christ lives. And we are eagerly waiting for him to return as our Savior. ‭‭Philippians‬ ‭3:20‬ ‭NLT‬‬
But for now we live on Earth waiting to go home, being in the world but not of it, and thus exiles. But how do you live as an exile?
Let’s look to the example of Jeremiah, Daniel, and Jesus.
Back in the Old Testament, the Israelites became exiles after being conquered by the Babylons, and were taken from their homes,. They became a minority, surrounded by fake God’s and a bad culture. Likewise, we live in our own Babylon, living in a world surrounded by idols and ungodly culture. Some joined and embraced this culture while others revolted against it. However the prophet Jeremiah came up with plan c. He told them to take shelter in Babylon and seek its well being, and to even pray to God on their behalf. It was neither compromise nor revolt.
A greater example of this is Daniel. Daniel was an Israelite who was recruited to work in the high courts of Babylon with some friends. They served the Babylonian king and took Babylonain name, following Jeremiah’s advice to seek Babylon’s well being. However, there were moments they drew a line, when upholding they faith in God, and resisting the influence to worship Babylonian Gods. For example, when they was told to bow down to Babylonian Gods or they’d die, they refused to compromise their faith to worldly culture , and God vindicated them. They criticized Babylon for its injustice and arrogance, but did it peacefully. They seeked the well-being of Babylon, but their true loyalty was to God. The way of the exile was a mix of loyalty and subversion.
Now to Jesus: The Babylon of Jesus’ day was Rome. Jesus carried the tradition of the exile during the reign of king Cesar of Rome. Jesus said it alright to pay taxes to Cesar, but don’t give loyalty to him, but only to God. He also criticized the Romans idolatry towards power, and they killed him for it, and he revived vindication from God.
While the true Babylon is long gone, we all still live in a type of Babylon, whether it be society as a whole, or sin. Babylon is a symbol of a human institution demanding allegiance to idolatry redefinition of good and Evil.
So how should we live in society? We are to respect our rulers( 1 Peter 2:13), and to love and seek the well being of all people and society(John 15:12, Isaiah 1:17,) , even our enemies( Matthew 5:44). But our loyalty is alway to be to Jesus above all things. We shouldn’t compromise our faith to worldly culture.
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2020.10.31 10:39 JesusLovesLiv Organized Christianity Religion is "the beast" - salvation for all

Of all things that could be considered evil, eternal condemnation of burning by fire is the most evil thing imaginable. For short summary, I have personally concluded all are children are God & all end up in the same place. Upon analyzing the scriptures, I found there are many a mess ups. This is addressed by Daddio here in
Jeremiah 8:8
"'How can you say, "We are wise, for we have the law of the LORD," when actually the lying pen of the scribes has handled it falsely?"
Dismissing the fact that there's way too many translations of the bible to count, let's say we take faith & say the scriptures are 100% flawless [also omitting they are recorded by flawed men] - than we would have to admit this scripture is 100% accurate. Which would actually confirm that the people writing down the words messed things up! The bible's too long, so I'll just state my case plainly.
  1. The word for punishment is actually a horticultural word for "pruning". Considering God's love for planting & harvesting parables, this does seem more appropriate from a "loving father"
  2. The word for eternal is actually "age-long". I gave up on finding hebrew translators for the one word I found in Daniel. 👀 my only OT script on this issue. But yes it was the Greek word & it I shit you not translated to...
αἰώνιον
Transliteration: aiṓnios
Part(s) of speech: Adjective
Definition: age-long, and therefore: practically eternal, unending; partaking of the character of that which lasts for an age, as contrasted with that which is brief and fleeting.
https://greeklexicon.org/lexicon/strongs/166/
Now when comparing ANYTHING with eternity, eternity will ALWAYS be infinitely longer
  1. The idea of "eternity burning" contradicts other scriptures. Scriptures that describe the fire & the lord's plan.. Look..
Zechariah 13:9 I will bring the one-third through the fire, Will refine them as silver is refined, And test them as gold is tested. They will call on My name, And I will answer them. I will say, ‘This is My people’; And each one will say, ‘The LORD is my God.’
Isaiah 43:2 When you pass through the waters, I will be with you; and through the rivers, they shall not overwhelm you; when you walk through fire you shall not be burned, and the flame shall not consume you
Isaiah 43:25 I, even I, am he who blots out your transgressions, for my own sake, and remembers your sins no more
Isaiah 45:23 I have sworn by my own name; I have spoken the truth, and I will never go back on my word: Every knee will bend to me, and every tongue will declare allegiance to me.
Isaiah 48:10 Behold, I have refined you, but not as silver; I have tried you in the furnace of affliction 11 For my own sake, for my own sake, I do this. How can I let myself be defamed? I will not yield my glory to another"
Jeremiah 29:11-12 For I know the plans I have for you, declares the Lord, plans for welfare and not for evil, to give you a future and a hope. Then you will call upon me and come and pray to me, and I will hear you
Ephesians 1:10 as a plan for the fullness of time, to bring all things in heaven and on earth together in Christ
Romans 14:11 For it is written, As I live, says the Lord, every knee shall bow to me, and every tongue shall confess to God.
Philippians 2:10 That at the name of Jesus every knee should bow, of things in heaven, and things in earth, and things under the earth;
1 John 2:2 He is the atoning sacrifice for our sins, and not only for ours but also for the sins of the whole world
1 John 4:10 And love consists in this: not that we loved God, but that He loved us and sent His Son as an atoning sacrifice for our sins.
1 John 4:14 And we have seen and testify that the Father has sent His Son to be the Savior of the world
Revelation 5:13 And I heard every creature in heaven, and on earth, and under the earth, and in the sea, and all that is in them, saying: "To Him who sits on the throne, and to the Lamb, be praise and honor and glory and power forever and ever
John 12:32 And I, when I am lifted up from the earth, will draw all people to myself
Isaiah 11:6 The wolf will live with the lamb, the leopard will lie down with the goat, the calf and the lion and the yearling together; and a little child will lead them
1 Corinthians 15:52 in a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trumpet. For the trumpet will sound, and the dead will be raised incorruptible, and we shall be changed
My personal experience plays in my argument and so does my perception. The reason I believe the beast to be organized Christian religion is because people literally enjoy believing they're more special & loved than others & that all these other people deserve to spend eternity burning - eternally condemning someone like this in itself, to me, is THE MOST WICKED
It also twists the responsibility OFF of the omnipotent omnipresent God who is in control, and places it onto the individual who has no control
The scriptural evidence to support free will is non-existent
In my quest over this, there were a lot of verses documenting "man's path" being "his own" - Well, yes of course it is "his" and "his own" - it is specifically designed for him - others often will reference verses saying man's path is created by his heart, but who created the heart? God, he is the creator. He fills it with desire. He gives it light or darkness, whatever he pleases. Man is not the creator of himself. God is.
I really enjoy Solomon & he said in Ecclesiastes (NLT) 2:25 "For who can eat or enjoy anything apart from him(God)?" 3:14-15 "And I know that whatever God does is final. Nothing can be added to it or taken from it... What is happening now has happened before, and what happens in the future has happened before, because God makes the same things happen over and over again."
Ecclesiastes 6:10 "Everything has already been decided. It was known long ago what each person would be. So there's no use arguing with God about your destiny" 7:13-14 "Accept the way God does things, for who can straighten what he has made crooked? Enjoy prosperity while you can, but when hard times strike, realize that both come from God."
Here in Proverbs 16:4 "The Lord has made everything for its purpose, even the wicked for the day of trouble"
Paul said in Romans 9:21 "Has the potter no right over the clay, to make out of the same lump one vessel for honorable use and another for dishonorable use"
Romans 13:1 "For there is no power but of God: the powers that be are ordained of God."
This is also repeated in Daniel 2:21 "He changes times and seasons; he removes kings and sets up kings; he gives wisdom to the wise and knowledge to those who have understanding"
However let's say we want a direct quote of the Lord speaking:
Hebrew Translation Deuteronomy 32:39 "See now that I am he and there is no God besides me. I kill and I make alive. I wound and I heal and there is none from my hand who can deliver."
HT Deuteronomy 32:27 "Not the wrath of the enemy had I feared, lest should misunderstand their adversaries, lest they should say our hand is high and it is not the lord who has done all this."
NLT Isaiah 45:7 "I form light and create darkness, I make well-being and create calamity, I am the Lord, who does all these things."
There is a particular scripture used by believers of free will in Isaiah 30:1 "to those who carry out plans that are not mine" - however, the hebrew word 'mas-sê-ḵāh' that was translated to 'plans' actually means "molten" - as in a molten calf or image [idol worship, melted medal formed into a shape thought to have power to bring blessings]
More importantly, this error in Isaiah 30:1 is present in all translations. There is not one that uses the word "molten". This is because... Genesis 11:9 "Upon thus is called its name for there God confused the language of all the earth." Here the hebrew word for confused is bā-lal & the worship of Balal is all over the bible
Repeatedly throughout the scriptures God complains about worshiping Balal. Most don't realize Balal is confusion. And yet the organized Christian religion is dripping in it. The Christian masses act exactly like the Pharisees, using laws to eternally condemn people to burn. When the reality is, God is love, the fire does not burn those who enter it, the fire does not consume those who enter it, and all go to paradise. However this is not what is preached. The masses of Christianity are denying God's good character and worshiping a beast that would burn and torment their children for eternity. And they're claiming mankind is responsible for creating his own heart & destiny, in direct rebellion with the "God is the creator" belief!
Sidenote: what is "practically eternity"? How does such a thing even exist? No time could ever be practically eternal, what the heck? That was bothering me. It continues to bother me.
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2020.10.18 04:11 JpBlez5 If your fee surrounded, either by temptation or other things, read this.

There’s more with you than against you
Context: In the OT, there was a king trying to attack the king of Israel, but the prophet Elisha warns the king of Israel about where the ambushes will be, and tells him we’re not to go. This opposing king gets upset that his plans are being foiled, and that’s we’re we start the story.
“The king of Aram became very upset over this. He called his officers together and demanded, “Which of you is the traitor? Who has been informing the king of Israel of my plans?” “It’s not us, my lord the king,” one of the officers replied. “Elisha, the prophet in Israel, tells the king of Israel even the words you speak in the privacy of your bedroom!” 2 Kings 2: 11-12
The King is angered by how his plans aren’t coming to past, because of God protecting Israel. Likewise the devil gets mad because God protects us.
The king forces his attention from the king of Israel to Elisha, tackling the root of the problem. Likewise the devil doesn’t tempt God or Jesus, for God and Jesus cannot sin. So the devil tries to hurt God by trying to tempt us, his children, to make us fall, and it can seem that there’s no end to these things. But remember this:
There’s more with you than against you
““Go and find out where he is,” the king commanded, “so I can send troops to seize him.” And the report came back: “Elisha is at Dothan.” So one night the king of Aram sent a great army with many chariots and horses to surround the city.”‭‭2 Kings‬ ‭6:13-14‬ ‭NLT‬‬
The devil will tempt us in life, attacking us with temptation and accusations. The Bible makes it clear that the devil is a roaring lion, seeking to devour someone( 1 Peter 5:8). The enemies favorite thing to ambush us with sinful desires, and it’ll seem like we’re extremely outnumbered and overwhelmed by temptation. The devil will attempt a lot of surprise attacks on our lives, making us feel temptations when we least expect it or at our weakest point. But also look at how the king finds specific location to find and ambush Elisha. Likewise the devil will attack a specific weakness of ours to tempt us to sin. But God already has seen him, and has prepared a solution for you, and is greater than the devils attacks, and delivers us from temptation. Remember that greater is he who’s in you, than the one against you(1 John 4:4)
No temptation has overtaken you that is not common to man. God is faithful, and he will not let you be tempted beyond your ability, but with the temptation he will also provide the way of escape, that you may be able to endure it.” 1 Corinthians‬ ‭10:13‬ ‭ESV‬‬
“So one night the king of Aram sent a great army with many chariots and horses to surround the city. When the servant of the man of God got up early the next morning and went outside, there were troops, horses, and chariots everywhere. “Oh, sir, what will we do now?” the young man cried to Elisha.”2 Kings‬ ‭6:14-15‬ ‭NLT‬‬
When Elisha’s disciple got up in the morning to do his duties, he saw that an enormous army surrounded him, and he panicked. So he got Elisha up and asking what they should do. A lot of times when we feel surrounded by life, we’ll start to panic, and focus on the problem, but not the solution. You see the disciple was panicking, but Elisha wasn’t. Elisha knew something about God that his disciple didn’t, and it’s something we should know.
““Don’t be afraid!” Elisha told him. “For there are more on our side than on theirs!” Then Elisha prayed, “O Lord, open his eyes and let him see!” The Lord opened the young man’s eyes, and when he looked up, he saw that the hillside around Elisha was filled with horses and chariots of fire.”‭‭2 Kings‬ ‭6:16-17‬ ‭NLT‬‬
“There’s more with us than against us”. Greater is our God who’s with us, than the enemies against us. Remember Christ defeated the devil on the cross once and for all. When Elisha asked God to open his disciples eyes, and when he did, he saw Gods army around them. When you feel like you’re by yourself, and the enemies surrounded your life, remember that Gods army is fighting for you.
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2020.10.11 21:40 JpBlez5 Blasphemy against the spirit

““So I tell you, every sin and blasphemy can be forgiven—except blasphemy against the Holy Spirit, which will never be forgiven. Anyone who speaks against the Son of Man can be forgiven, but anyone who speaks against the Holy Spirit will never be forgiven, either in this world or in the world to come.”‭‭Matthew‬ ‭12:31-32‬ ‭NLT‬‬
There’s a common misconception on what blasphemy against the Holy Spirit really is, and Ive seen many people be worried about it. So allow me to explain it.
Jesus says that speaking against others and even himself is forgivable, and every other blasphemy will be forgiven. But whoever speaks against/ blasphemy against the Holy Spirit will not be forgiven.
Have you ever spoken against God, Jesus, the Bible, or miracles? Well lucky that’s not blasphemy against the spirit. There’s been people that did all these things and more, and now are saved and on fire for God.
So what is blasphemy against the Holy Spirit: let’s look at the Pharisees, for that’s who Jesus was talking to.
In John 3:2, Nicodimus, king of the Jews and a Pharisee, came at night to Jesus, and revealed the Pharisees knew he came from God. This was because no one could do all these things unless God was with them. They KNEW he was the Messiah, but as it said earlier in this chapter, they planned to kill him.
They still refused to listen to Jesus and receive the conviction of the Holy Spirit. Why? They did this because people stopped following them, and started following Jesus. Their temples becomes empty and they lost profit because of this. So the Pharisees planned to kill him, even though they knew he was the messiah. So Jesus was telling them if they blasphemy against the Holy Spirit, they wouldn’t be forgiven.
1 Timothy 1:12-17
Pay attention, for this shows what blasphemy is forgivable and unforgivable.
“even though I used to blaspheme the name of Christ. In my insolence, I persecuted his people. But God had mercy on me because I did it in ignorance and unbelief.” 1 Timothy‬ ‭1:13‬ ‭NLT‬‬
Paul is one of the best known Christians, used to persecute Christians, was a blasphemer, and even admitted to being “one of the worse sinners”. When Jesus appeared to Paul, he asked him” Saul, Saul, why are you persecuting me?”( Acts 9:4).Yet God still used his life for good.
But how is what Paul did different from what they Pharisees did? Why would Paul be excused, but not the Pharisees? Because Paul did it out of ignorance, while the Pharisee knew exactly what they were doing.
Paul did many sinful things in his life, but did it all in ignorance, so God was merciful and patient with him and soon used him. Remember that when Jesus first appeared to Paul, Paul’s life was changed, and the Holy Spirit convicted him. The Pharisees knew who Jesus truly was, and spoke to him numerous times, and yet still chose to go against Jesus.
Why is this sin unforgivable? Because the Holy Spirit convicts us to repent. If we reject the very thing that draws us to repentance, how will we repent? It’s impossible, the only one who can make us repent is the Holy Spirit.
So if you fear that you’ve committed this sin, let me tell you this. If you were living in blasphemy against the spirit, you won’t care anything about God, and wouldn’t be worried about this sin. The Holy Spirit couldn’t convict you because you pushed it out. The fact that you’re worried or concerned about this sin, or that you feel convicted in sin, shows the spirit is working in your life. Maybe you have spoken against God before and lived ignorance, but if you feel convicted about it, there’s your sign that you’re still child of God. If you feel convicted, repent and ask for forgiveness, and God will surely forgive you.
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2020.10.08 08:25 Worldly_Ad_5 Difference between Real and False Awakening

The first thing one should understand is the inversion narrative and how everything in this world is inverted/false. The public is misled by the rulers that be through lies, misinformation, and conflict of interest.
One example is the stock market - the inverted narrative here is that "you can quit your job and make money by using this strategy and this indicator". The public blindly believes this and loses their money to brokerages and, by proxy, investment banks that fund the brokerages. These institutions depend on the retail trader's money and require a steady supply of "traders" who pay them money through Fees, margin, spread, losses, and other ways including stop-loss hunting, data mining, taking the opposite position as the traders and other underhand means.
The steady stream of new traders are deliberately misinformed through brokerage courses, social media educators, youtube traders and forums that teach the public "knowledge" regarding technical indicators, which stock to pick, etc. This builds the public's confidence in their trading skills and they press the buy or sell button like sheep walking into the slaughterhouse.
Often, these YouTubers(Always have a link to the brokerage in the description) have contracts with the brokerages to market to new customers, and forums are paid by the brokerages to push their narrative(ads). Fake profiles, sock puppets, and echo chambers are a few more ways to deceive the public.
The key points to note are : 1. Conflict of Interest between brokers and traders 2. Presence of an intermediary(brokerage) and 3. Disinformation
This narrative can be extended to almost all other aspects of human existence.
Politics - Polititians are the intermediary between you and the state and often spew disinfo to get you to vote for them. their conflict of interest arises as they need to placate their backers and investors and not their voters.
Healthcare - Doctors are the intermediary between you and health(clear disinfo) and prescribe you medicines to placate their backers(pharma industry) which often have bad effects on you(conflict of interest)
Education - Teachers are the intermediary between you and a good job. They push all kind of disinfo on the young students and mould their minds into conformist slaves due to the requirements of the industry(conflict of interest)
Religion - Pope is the intermediary between you and god (how they got away with this is beyond comprehension) and often spews disinfo to the believers that keep them in line and good slaves to the system.
Secular Media - Intermediary between you and the news, conflict of interest due to political and financial backers and will not provide you with true or relevant news. Has an overall negative effect on the viewer.
Colossians 2:8 Beware lest any man spoil you through philosophy and vain deceit, after the tradition of men, after the rudiments of the world, and not after Christ.
Now, we can talk about awakening.
False awakening - Any kind of "woke", "exposed", "conspiracy", and other buzzwords to make one feel smarter than the next guy, make one feel as though they are part of an " elite group" through various ways like knowledge, wealth, birth, etc. These are just ways to manipulate your ego and fool you into thinking that you are awakening
It can be summed up like this: individual sovereign under God OR collective subject under the children of the devil. This is why collective consciousness, hive mind, and majority rule may not be in our best interest.
The Corona Virus is a mass ritual to initiate people into false awakening. How?
  1. Masks - Covering your mouth - cult of silence and submission to the "authorities/majority"
  2. Hand washing is the occult ritualistic symbol of rejection. You wash your hands off the Truth and follow in the steps of the lie.
  3. Social distancing separates and isolates you from others which the opposite of the unity and universal brotherhood of God.
  4. Lockdowns keep you isolated and you surrender your sovereignty to the majority.

Real awakening - This is the age-old spiritual awakening that has been going on for thousands of years. The biblical book of job is an example of what an initiate will face. They will Lose their previous lives, be hated by the public, be betrayed by family and friends, face all kinds of suffering in order to lead them to god. The story of Moses is also a good example- the Israelites escaped slavery(Egypt) and roamed in the desert/wilderness for 40 years becoming refined and worthy of entrance into the kingdom of heaven. Jesus Christ was tempted in the desert for 40 days and 40 nights without food and faced suffering and was tempted by the devil before he started his ministry.
The book of psalms written by David gives us more examples of what the initiate faces - Psalm 31:11 Because of all my enemies, I am the utter contempt of my neighbors and an object of dread to my closest friends' 13They conspire against me and plot to take my life. Psalm 27:10 Though my father and mother forsake me, the LORD will receive me.
All this means that God tests his people and refines them by stripping away their sin through trials and hardship and leaving only behind their virtues. Zechariah 13:9 And I will put this third into the fire, and refine them as one refines silver, and test them as gold is tested. They will call upon my name, and I will answer them. I will say, ‘They are my people’; and they will say, ‘The Lord is my God.’”
We find similar themes in the new testament as well - Matthew 10:22 And ye shall be hated of all men for my name's sake: but he that endureth to the end shall be saved. John 16:33 These things I have spoken to you, so that in Me you may have peace. In the world you have tribulation, but take courage; I have overcome the world.”

Conclusion: So what do we do? There are 4 Horses of Revelation - The Red Horse(Emotions), The Black Horse(Intellect), The Pale Horse(Physical), and the White Horse(Spirit). When the mind is lead by either Emotion ("This is unfair!", "Why is this happening to me?", "I do this because it feels good", "I don't wanna do this because it feels bad"), Intellect("I am a wise person who studied the scriptures and this is what I say", "Science says ABC so we should do XYZ", "We should have debates and find facts!") or the Physical( "I am hungry, in pain, suffering, etc"). These 3 horses are ruled by the EGO or PRIDE. We will not be able to ride on the White Horse of Spirit.
Our world is built in such a way that teaches us to look OUTSIDE towards authority - parents, teachers, co-workers, bosses, peer group, etc. for answers. On the other hand, every single religion in the world Hinduism, Buddhism, Christianity, Islam, Tribal Religions - all tell us that the answer lies within.
Through meditation and calmness/peace/stillness/silence of mind, we are able to be with the Spirit and enter into the kingdom of God.
Exodus 14:14
(NIV)The LORD will fight for you; you need only to be still." (NLT)The LORD himself will fight for you. Just stay calm.” (ESV)The LORD will fight for you, and you have only to be silent.”
(KJV)The LORD shall fight for you, and ye shall hold your peace. (CSB)The LORD will fight for you, and you must be quiet."
Stillness, Peace, Calm, Quiet, and Silence here refer to the silence in the mind when the mind is not constantly thinking, worrying, debating, and arguing. This is found during meditation. One can reach this state within a day or two through discipline and strength of will. How? When you focus your mind on your breath - Feel the cool air in your nostrils during each inhalation and exhalation cycle. Our breathing is often done in the background/automatically. Bring your awareness to your breathing and breath consciously in the foreground. After 2 minutes, your mental chatter of the "monkey mind" will subside and you will be with God. It is not easy, but it is your birthright and you are God's Inheritance.
Deuteronomy 31:6 "Be strong and courageous. Do not fear or be in dread of them, for it is the LORD your God who goes with you. He will not leave you or forsake you."
Luke 17:21 Neither shall they say, Lo here! or, lo there! for, behold, the kingdom of God is within you.
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2020.10.08 08:10 Worldly_Ad_5 Difference between True and False Awakening

The first thing one should understand is the inversion narrative and how everything in this world is inverted/false. The public is misled by the rulers that be through lies, misinformation, and conflict of interest.
One example is the stock market - the inverted narrative here is that "you can quit your job and make money by using this strategy and this indicator". The public blindly believes this and loses their money to brokerages and, by proxy, investment banks that fund the brokerages. These institutions depend on the retail trader's money and require a steady supply of "traders" who pay them money through Fees, margin, spread, losses, and other ways including stop-loss hunting, data mining, taking the opposite position as the traders and other underhand means.
The steady stream of new traders are deliberately misinformed through brokerage courses, social media educators, youtube traders and forums that teach the public "knowledge" regarding technical indicators, which stock to pick, etc. This builds the public's confidence in their trading skills and they press the buy or sell button like sheep walking into the slaughterhouse.
Often, these YouTubers(Always have a link to the brokerage in the description) have contracts with the brokerages to market to new customers, and forums are paid by the brokerages to push their narrative(ads). Fake profiles, sock puppets, and echo chambers are a few more ways to deceive the public.
The key points to note are : 1. Conflict of Interest between brokers and traders 2. Presence of an intermediary(brokerage) and 3. Disinformation
This narrative can be extended to almost all other aspects of human existence.
Politics - Polititians are the intermediary between you and the state and often spew disinfo to get you to vote for them. their conflict of interest arises as they need to placate their backers and investors and not their voters.
Healthcare - Doctors are the intermediary between you and health(clear disinfo) and prescribe you medicines to placate their backers(pharma industry) which often have bad effects on you(conflict of interest)
Education - Teachers are the intermediary between you and a good job. They push all kind of disinfo on the young students and mould their minds into conformist slaves due to the requirements of the industry(conflict of interest)
Religion - Pope is the intermediary between you and god (how they got away with this is beyond comprehension) and often spews disinfo to the believers that keep them in line and good slaves to the system.
Secular Media - Intermediary between you and the news, conflict of interest due to political and financial backers and will not provide you with true or relevant news. Has an overall negative effect on the viewer.
Colossians 2:8 Beware lest any man spoil you through philosophy and vain deceit, after the tradition of men, after the rudiments of the world, and not after Christ.
Now, we can talk about awakening.
False awakening - Any kind of "woke", "exposed", "conspiracy", and other buzzwords to make one feel smarter than the next guy, make one feel as though they are part of an " elite group" through various ways like knowledge, wealth, birth, etc. These are just ways to manipulate your ego and fool you into thinking that you are awakening
It can be summed up like this: individual sovereign under God OR collective subject under the children of the devil. This is why collective consciousness, hive mind, and majority rule may not be in our best interest.
The Corona Virus is a mass ritual to initiate people into false awakening. How?
  1. Masks - Covering your mouth - cult of silence and submission to the "authorities/majority"
  2. Hand washing is the occult ritualistic symbol of rejection. You wash your hands off the Truth and follow in the steps of the lie.
  3. Social distancing separates and isolates you from others which the opposite of the unity and universal brotherhood of God.
  4. Lockdowns keep you isolated and you surrender your sovereignty to the majority.

Real awakening - This is the age-old spiritual awakening that has been going on for thousands of years. The biblical book of job is an example of what an initiate will face. They will Lose their previous lives, be hated by the public, be betrayed by family and friends, face all kinds of suffering in order to lead them to god. The story of Moses is also a good example- the Israelites escaped slavery(Egypt) and roamed in the desert/wilderness for 40 years becoming refined and worthy of entrance into the kingdom of heaven. Jesus Christ was tempted in the desert for 40 days and 40 nights without food and faced suffering and was tempted by the devil before he started his ministry.
The book of psalms written by David gives us more examples of what the initiate faces - Psalm 31:11 Because of all my enemies, I am the utter contempt of my neighbors and an object of dread to my closest friends' 13They conspire against me and plot to take my life. Psalm 27:10 Though my father and mother forsake me, the LORD will receive me.
All this means that God tests his people and refines them by stripping away their sin through trials and hardship and leaving only behind their virtues. Zechariah 13:9 And I will put this third into the fire, and refine them as one refines silver, and test them as gold is tested. They will call upon my name, and I will answer them. I will say, ‘They are my people’; and they will say, ‘The Lord is my God.’”
We find similar themes in the new testament as well - Matthew 10:22 And ye shall be hated of all men for my name's sake: but he that endureth to the end shall be saved. John 16:33 These things I have spoken to you, so that in Me you may have peace. In the world you have tribulation, but take courage; I have overcome the world.”

Conclusion: So what do we do? There are 4 Horses of Revelation - The Red Horse(Emotions), The Black Horse(Intellect), The Pale Horse(Physical), and the White Horse(Spirit). When the mind is lead by either Emotion ("This is unfair!", "Why is this happening to me?", "I do this because it feels good", "I don't wanna do this because it feels bad"), Intellect("I am a wise person who studied the scriptures and this is what I say", "Science says ABC so we should do XYZ", "We should have debates and find facts!") or the Physical( "I am hungry, in pain, suffering, etc"). These 3 horses are ruled by the EGO or PRIDE. We will not be able to ride on the White Horse of Spirit.
Our world is built in such a way that teaches us to look OUTSIDE towards authority - parents, teachers, co-workers, bosses, peer group, etc. for answers. On the other hand, every single religion in the world Hinduism, Buddhism, Christianity, Islam, Tribal Religions - all tell us that the answer lies within.
Through meditation and calmness/peace/stillness/silence of mind, we are able to be with the Spirit and enter into the kingdom of God.
Exodus 14:14
(NIV)The LORD will fight for you; you need only to be still." (NLT)The LORD himself will fight for you. Just stay calm.” (ESV)The LORD will fight for you, and you have only to be silent.”
(KJV)The LORD shall fight for you, and ye shall hold your peace. (CSB)The LORD will fight for you, and you must be quiet."
Stillness, Peace, Calm, Quiet, and Silence here refer to the silence in the mind when the mind is not constantly thinking, worrying, debating, and arguing. This is found during meditation. One can reach this state within a day or two through discipline and strength of will. How? When you focus your mind on your breath - Feel the cool air in your nostrils during each inhalation and exhalation cycle. Our breathing is often done in the background/automatically. Bring your awareness to your breathing and breath consciously in the foreground. After 2 minutes, your mental chatter of the "monkey mind" will subside and you will be with God. It is not easy, but it is your birthright and you are God's Inheritance.
Deuteronomy 31:6 "Be strong and courageous. Do not fear or be in dread of them, for it is the LORD your God who goes with you. He will not leave you or forsake you."
Luke 17:21 Neither shall they say, Lo here! or, lo there! for, behold, the kingdom of God is within you.
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2020.10.08 08:08 Worldly_Ad_5 Difference between Real and False Awakening

The first thing one should understand is the inversion narrative and how everything in this world is inverted/false. The public is misled by the rulers that be through lies, misinformation, and conflict of interest.
One example is the stock market - the inverted narrative here is that "you can quit your job and make money by using this strategy and this indicator". The public blindly believes this and loses their money to brokerages and, by proxy, investment banks that fund the brokerages. These institutions depend on the retail trader's money and require a steady supply of "traders" who pay them money through Fees, margin, spread, losses, and other ways including stop-loss hunting, data mining, taking the opposite position as the traders and other underhand means.
The steady stream of new traders are deliberately misinformed through brokerage courses, social media educators, youtube traders and forums that teach the public "knowledge" regarding technical indicators, which stock to pick, etc. This builds the public's confidence in their trading skills and they press the buy or sell button like sheep walking into the slaughterhouse.
Often, these YouTubers(Always have a link to the brokerage in the description) have contracts with the brokerages to market to new customers, and forums are paid by the brokerages to push their narrative(ads). Fake profiles, sock puppets, and echo chambers are a few more ways to deceive the public.
The key points to note are : 1. Conflict of Interest between brokers and traders 2. Presence of an intermediary(brokerage) and 3. Disinformation
This narrative can be extended to almost all other aspects of human existence.
Politics - Polititians are the intermediary between you and the state and often spew disinfo to get you to vote for them. their conflict of interest arises as they need to placate their backers and investors and not their voters.
Healthcare - Doctors are the intermediary between you and health(clear disinfo) and prescribe you medicines to placate their backers(pharma industry) which often have bad effects on you(conflict of interest)
Education - Teachers are the intermediary between you and a good job. They push all kind of disinfo on the young students and mould their minds into conformist slaves due to the requirements of the industry(conflict of interest)
Religion - Pope is the intermediary between you and god (how they got away with this is beyond comprehension) and often spews disinfo to the believers that keep them in line and good slaves to the system.
Secular Media - Intermediary between you and the news, conflict of interest due to political and financial backers and will not provide you with true or relevant news. Has an overall negative effect on the viewer.
Colossians 2:8 Beware lest any man spoil you through philosophy and vain deceit, after the tradition of men, after the rudiments of the world, and not after Christ.
Now, we can talk about awakening.
False awakening - Any kind of "woke", "exposed", "conspiracy", and other buzzwords to make one feel smarter than the next guy, make one feel as though they are part of an " elite group" through various ways like knowledge, wealth, birth, etc. These are just ways to manipulate your ego and fool you into thinking that you are awakening
It can be summed up like this: individual sovereign under God OR collective subject under the children of the devil. This is why collective consciousness, hive mind, and majority rule may not be in our best interest.
The Corona Virus is a mass ritual to initiate people into false awakening. How?
  1. Masks - Covering your mouth - cult of silence and submission to the "authorities/majority"
  2. Hand washing is the occult ritualistic symbol of rejection. You wash your hands off the Truth and follow in the steps of the lie.
  3. Social distancing separates and isolates you from others which the opposite of the unity and universal brotherhood of God.
  4. Lockdowns keep you isolated and you surrender your sovereignty to the majority.

Real awakening - This is the age-old spiritual awakening that has been going on for thousands of years. The biblical book of job is an example of what an initiate will face. They will Lose their previous lives, be hated by the public, be betrayed by family and friends, face all kinds of suffering in order to lead them to god. The story of Moses is also a good example- the Israelites escaped slavery(Egypt) and roamed in the desert/wilderness for 40 years becoming refined and worthy of entrance into the kingdom of heaven. Jesus Christ was tempted in the desert for 40 days and 40 nights without food and faced suffering and was tempted by the devil before he started his ministry.
The book of psalms written by David gives us more examples of what the initiate faces - Psalm 31:11 Because of all my enemies, I am the utter contempt of my neighbors and an object of dread to my closest friends' 13They conspire against me and plot to take my life. Psalm 27:10 Though my father and mother forsake me, the LORD will receive me.
All this means that God tests his people and refines them by stripping away their sin through trials and hardship and leaving only behind their virtues. Zechariah 13:9 And I will put this third into the fire, and refine them as one refines silver, and test them as gold is tested. They will call upon my name, and I will answer them. I will say, ‘They are my people’; and they will say, ‘The Lord is my God.’”
We find similar themes in the new testament as well - Matthew 10:22 And ye shall be hated of all men for my name's sake: but he that endureth to the end shall be saved. John 16:33 These things I have spoken to you, so that in Me you may have peace. In the world you have tribulation, but take courage; I have overcome the world.”

Conclusion: So what do we do? There are 4 Horses of Revelation - The Red Horse(Emotions), The Black Horse(Intellect), The Pale Horse(Physical), and the White Horse(Spirit). When the mind is lead by either Emotion ("This is unfair!", "Why is this happening to me?", "I do this because it feels good", "I don't wanna do this because it feels bad"), Intellect("I am a wise person who studied the scriptures and this is what I say", "Science says ABC so we should do XYZ", "We should have debates and find facts!") or the Physical( "I am hungry, in pain, suffering, etc"). These 3 horses are ruled by the EGO or PRIDE. We will not be able to ride on the White Horse of Spirit.
Our world is built in such a way that teaches us to look OUTSIDE towards authority - parents, teachers, co-workers, bosses, peer group, etc. for answers. On the other hand, every single religion in the world Hinduism, Buddhism, Christianity, Islam, Tribal Religions - all tell us that the answer lies within.
Through meditation and calmness/peace/stillness/silence of mind, we are able to be with the Spirit and enter into the kingdom of God.
Exodus 14:14
(NIV)The LORD will fight for you; you need only to be still." (NLT)The LORD himself will fight for you. Just stay calm.” (ESV)The LORD will fight for you, and you have only to be silent.”
(KJV)The LORD shall fight for you, and ye shall hold your peace. (CSB)The LORD will fight for you, and you must be quiet."
Stillness, Peace, Calm, Quiet, and Silence here refer to the silence in the mind when the mind is not constantly thinking, worrying, debating, and arguing. This is found during meditation. One can reach this state within a day or two through discipline and strength of will. How? When you focus your mind on your breath - Feel the cool air in your nostrils during each inhalation and exhalation cycle. Our breathing is often done in the background/automatically. Bring your awareness to your breathing and breath consciously in the foreground. After 2 minutes, your mental chatter of the "monkey mind" will subside and you will be with God. It is not easy, but it is your birthright and you are God's Inheritance.
Deuteronomy 31:6 "Be strong and courageous. Do not fear or be in dread of them, for it is the LORD your God who goes with you. He will not leave you or forsake you."
Luke 17:21 Neither shall they say, Lo here! or, lo there! for, behold, the kingdom of God is within you.
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2020.10.04 02:34 JpBlez5 Jesus is the cure

There are many ways we can try to fight porn, but the only true way to freedom is Jesus Christ.
For the wages of sin is death, but the gift of God is eternal life in Christ Jesus our Lord. Romans 6:23 NKJV
How many times have you felt dead after watching porn? Well this is the effect sin has in us all. It makes us feel dead inside. Not only that, but it keeps us wanting more, but it never truly satisfies.
Jesus once said this:
Jesus replied, “Anyone who drinks this water will soon become thirsty again. But those who drink the water I give will never be thirsty again. It becomes a fresh, bubbling spring within them, giving them eternal life.””‭‭John‬ ‭4:13-14‬ ‭NLT‬‬
We can try to fill our lives with other things like exercise and videos games to fight this sin, and it is a good distraction. But replacing this with other worldly things will still leave us wanting more, and this leads us to doing it over and over again, because it never truly satisfy us. But when we accept Jesus, we can be given a life that truly satisfies us. He’s the only thing that can truly satisfy us.
But how can we access this amazing life and eternal life:
For God so loved the world that He gave His only begotten Son, that whoever believes in Him should not perish but have everlasting life. John 3:16 NKJV
As the word says, the wages or price to pay for sin is death. But God loves us all so much, that even when we deserved death, he sent his son to die for our sins. Jesus took all the punishment for our sins, so that we didn’t have too. Because of this, when we accept Jesus as lord and savior, we are saved from eternal death. Because of this, if we confess that Jesus is our lord and savior, we access forgiveness of sin and eternal life.
that if you confess with your mouth the Lord Jesus and believe in your heart that God has raised Him from the dead, you will be saved. Romans 10:9 NKJV
Jesus has given me amazing new life since following him, and he can give it to you as well.
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2020.10.03 18:35 LeonSchuring1993 Why OSAS (Once Saved Always Saved) and faith-only is very likely false and therefore dangerous! My rebuttle of it in favor of repentance of sins!!!

Okay, first off, this post is both about OSAS as faith-only (meaning you can lose salvation if you don't believe in Christ). I simply want to keep this as a friendly debate between to brothers and sisters, in pursuit of the correct teachings. I try to convey why I think we do need to repent continually of all our sins! I may have stumbled over some other (important) verses, so please add them down in the comment section below!!
Acts 20:21, 3:18-20, 38-40, 5:31,10:43, 11:18, 17:29-31, Matthew 11:20, 21:32, Mark 1:15, Luke 13:3-4, John 3:16, 20:31, 2 Corinthians 7:10, 1 Thessalonians 1:9, 2 Timothy 2:25, Revelation 3:19 and 2 Peter 3:9 all clearly state that we have to repent next to faith, BUT they don't mention repentance of sin explicitly! Some faith-only apologists interpret this as repentance to God or faith only! Personally, I do think repentance of sin is what they're refering to. But just to be sure, I decided to give lay out evidence for this point in the verses down below.
If you are OSAS or even faith-only, my first critique is that these Christians simply want to be saved without wanting to do anything in return for the Lord. As Jesus said: ¨If you love me, keep my Commandments.¨ Murderers can get away with everything just by believing in Christ. I already have some doubts about the moral standing of these Christians.
First let me address John 11:26, Acts 10:43 and 16:31, since they are often brought up. It´s simple: yes, Jesus was correct in John 11:26, proper faith is part of salvation, because proper salvation includes repentance. The person in question was likely already repenting, so that´s why Jesus confirmed he only needed faith as of now. Since there are tons of verses which mention repentance as being neccessary, these three (when taking out of context) seem to imply that everything is faith-based. This is especially important since repentance of sin is mentioned many, many times in other verses. Not just repentance: repentance of sin. Because everyone has met different conditions, replies also differed throughout the gospel.
Also very likely anyway in Acts 16:31 is that the guy already repenting for his sins!! Especially since a few verses earlier Luke reports that Paul and Silas at least prayed and sang hymns and the prisoners listened (v. Acts 16:25)!!! Nowhere do both Jesus and Paul state that faith only is necessary for repentance!! Even more-so, the verses thereafter he both washed their wounds and made food for them, which proved his repentance.
Also, Hebrews 10:26-27, 6:1, Acts 26:20, Luke 15:7-10, 24:47, Revelation 3:15-22, 21:8, Galatians 5:19-21, 1 Corinthians 6:9-11, Philippians 2:12-18, 1 John 3:7-10, Proverbs 28:13 and Isaiah 59:2 all mention only repentance being neccessary in relation to sins, not faith (for more info, see down below). Does this mean only repentance is required? No!! Faith is important as well!! So Jesus and Paul implied that one goes with the other!! We must have faith and repent!!!
I can rebuttal each of the verses saying we only need to trust our faith in Jesus as Lord and Savior to be saved. All of those verses imply that they are indeed part of the ¨equation¨ to be saved, but not solely. This is why OSAS doctrine is dangerous!! Next to the three verses listed above, OSAS and faith apologists like yourself always use scriptures like John 3:16-18, 5:24, 6:47, 8:24, 11:25, 20:3, Acts 16:30-31, Luke 8:12 and Mark 16:16. None of these scriptures clearly say that faith alone is sufficient. Yes, it´s part of it, but not everything alone. Even more, since John very likely is the latest gospel produced, this gospel has less weight than any of the others. I´m sorry, but the deductive reasoning of OSAS and faith apologists is weak. Take John 8:24 f.e.: Jesus only tells here that those without faith will die in their sins, not that those who both believe and repent (and are baptized and do good works) won´t die in their sins.
Now, let me summarize many verses OSAS people can´t debunk. As some mention 'metanoia' as the placeholder for repentance, I´ll first declare that the majority of the interpretation of that word goes by ´change the mind´. Once we change our minds, our behavior also changes with that automatically. ´Epistrepho´ is likely defined as ´turn back towards/convert´:
The following verses demonstrate that faith alone isn´t sufficient - we need to also continually repent from sin:
Only if others succeed to debunk each and every one of these verses, I might be willing to instead become convinced more of the faith-only position. However, there might be a few verses I might be missing here.
Now I'm going to rebuttal some arguments in advance I'm likely to get:
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2020.09.26 19:10 JpBlez5 God’s power to forgive

This morning I had messed up, so I was listening to Revelation, and a certain lyric came up that interested me. “Holy Holy, Holy, is the LORD GOD ALMIGHTY”.
Almighty is the word that stuck out the most. It reminded me of Gods all powerful ability’s to split the seas, help us in our battles, and most of all his power forgive us of our sins and cleanse us of unrighteousness.
So many of us allow guilt and shame to consume us, thinking or even feeling that God doesn’t want us, or won’t forgive us. But God doesn’t want this. He wants to forgive you, and for you to return to him, and confess our sins to him, so he can forgive us. Not only doesn’t he forgive you, but he wants to cleanse you of all guilt and unrighteousness.
We believe that God is almighty correct. This means he’s also strong enough to forgive our sins, clean us of unrighteousness, and help us fight our battles.
“If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just to forgive us our sins and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness.” ‭‭1 John‬ ‭1:9‬ ‭ESV‬‬
God even promises that he will do this, and when God makes a promise, he’s faithful to keep it.
God is not a man, so he does not lie. He is not human, so he does not change his mind. Has he ever spoken and failed to act? Has he ever promised and not carried it through?” ‭‭Numbers‬ ‭23:19‬ ‭NLT‬‬
If we are unfaithful, he remains faithful, for he cannot deny who he is.”‭‭2 Timothy‬ ‭2:13‬ ‭NLT‬‬
Remember that by the power of the blood of Jesus, you are forgiven, and you are washed clean. Keep fighting brothers, God bless you and I love you.
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2020.09.26 19:09 JpBlez5 God’s power to forgive

This morning I was listening to Revelation, and a certain lyric came up that interested me. “Holy Holy, Holy, is the LORD GOD ALMIGHTY”.
Almighty is the word that stuck out the most. It reminded me of Gods all powerful ability’s to split the seas, help us in our battles, and most of all his power forgive us of our sins and cleanse us of unrighteousness.
So many of us allow guilt and shame to consume us, thinking or even feeling that God doesn’t want us, or won’t forgive us. But God doesn’t want this. He wants to forgive you, and for you to return to him, and confess our sins to him, so he can forgive us. Not only doesn’t he forgive you, but he wants to cleanse you of all guilt and unrighteousness.
We believe that God is almighty correct. This means he’s also strong enough to forgive our sins, clean us of unrighteousness, and help us fight our battles.
“If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just to forgive us our sins and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness.” ‭‭1 John‬ ‭1:9‬ ‭ESV‬‬
God even promises that he will do this, and when God makes a promise, he’s faithful to keep it.
God is not a man, so he does not lie. He is not human, so he does not change his mind. Has he ever spoken and failed to act? Has he ever promised and not carried it through?” ‭‭Numbers‬ ‭23:19‬ ‭NLT‬‬
If we are unfaithful, he remains faithful, for he cannot deny who he is.”‭‭2 Timothy‬ ‭2:13‬ ‭NLT‬‬
Remember that by the power of the blood of Jesus, you are forgiven, and you are washed clean. Keep fighting brothers, God bless you and I love you.
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2020.09.18 08:34 abi19911 REPENT

Lately I've been praying to God inviting the Holy Spirit to convict me of all the sins I have commited, and I've also been asking God to make me fear Him more; as I often drift away too far doing worldly things and sinning uncontrolably.
I have been given these verses:
Ezekiel 18:23‭-‬24 NLT:
Do you think that I like to see wicked people die? says the Sovereign Lord . Of course not! I want them to turn from their wicked ways and live. However, if righteous people turn from their righteous behavior and start doing sinful things and act like other sinners, should they be allowed to live? No, of course not! All their righteous acts will be forgotten, and they will die for their sins.

Hebrews 10:26‭-‬31 NLT:
Dear friends, if we deliberately continue sinning after we have received knowledge of the truth, there is no longer any sacrifice that will cover these sins. There is only the terrible expectation of God’s judgment and the raging fire that will consume his enemies. For anyone who refused to obey the law of Moses was put to death without mercy on the testimony of two or three witnesses. Just think how much worse the punishment will be for those who have trampled on the Son of God, and have treated the blood of the covenant, which made us holy, as if it were common and unholy, and have insulted and disdained the Holy Spirit who brings God’s mercy to us. For we know the one who said, “I will take revenge. I will pay them back.” He also said, “The Lord will judge his own people.” It is a terrible thing to fall into the hands of the living God.
When I read these words, I began to humble myself realising without Jesus I am broken piece of garbage sinner on the highway to hell. Through all the disasters humanity have endured, we should be thankful that God is still patient with us. He has given us so many chances to repent and turn from our wicked ways; but I fear that God's judgement will come on us like raging fire(1 Peter 4:17), there will come a time where God will side on justice and judge his people accordingly. God's mercy is his divine gift to us, not an express ticket to heaven that we get for free, not just by believing and not repenting. Jesus PAID for our redemption.
We Christians have been divided into so many different kinds of teachings, some have fallen, some are still standing, some are uncertain. Let's not forget the only thing that God values of us is REPENTENCE, nothing more nothing less. God's commands to Paul was to teach ONE Gospel, that is to believe and have faith in our Lord Jesus Christ, REPENT and turn away from sin!
My family and I have been kicked out of our church for exposing the truth of the pastor, all I want is the truth; the only thing that I care about is whether Jesus knows me, whether Jesus knows you, whether Jesus knows the innocent people of the church that kicked me out of.
Matthew 7:21‭-‬23 NLT:
Not everyone who calls out to me, ‘Lord! Lord!’ will enter the Kingdom of Heaven. Only those who actually do the will of my Father in heaven will enter. On judgment day many will say to me, ‘Lord! Lord! We prophesied in your name and cast out demons in your name and performed many miracles in your name.’ But I will reply, ‘I never knew you. Get away from me, you who break God’s laws.’

Matthew 7:13‭-‬14 NLT:
You can enter God’s Kingdom only through the narrow gate. The highway to hell is broad, and its gate is wide for the many who choose that way. But the gateway to life is very narrow and the road is difficult, and only a few ever find it.
Please brothers and sisters, seek the one true God; Jesus said "Seek and you shall find". Put in some effort to seek the truth, for Jesus said "I am the way, the TRUTH, and the life". Seek Jesus.
Matthew 7:7‭-‬8 NLT:
Keep on asking, and you will receive what you ask for. Keep on seeking, and you will find. Keep on knocking, and the door will be opened to you. For everyone who asks, receives. Everyone who seeks, finds. And to everyone who knocks, the door will be opened.

John 14:6 NLT:
Jesus told him, "I am the way, the truth, and the life. No one can come to the Father except through me."
We are nothing without the love of God, for he sent Jesus to pay the ultimate prize of our sins and has given us chance after chance to repent. Let us not forget He is both a God of mercy and justice!
All I desire is the glory of God, not the approval of men.
May God bless you all brothers and sisters, and to all my Jewish siblings; Happy New Year!

Edit:-
Some of you may have misunderstood my message thinking my belief was to receive salvation by works, no I never said that. In fact we left our church for that very reason.
What I'm trying to say here is that a lot of Christians are not growing spiritually, they believe and have faith in Christ but never know how to be led by the Spirit. These are the kind of people who are like "Oh look, I believe in Christ therefore I can do what ever I want." or who are lukewarm and are not sure how to move further.
Romans 8:13-14 NLT:
For if you live by its dictates, you will die. But if through the power of the Spirit you put to death the deeds of your sinful nature, you will live. For all who are led by the Spirit of God are children of God.
A lot of preachers like to take advantage of this to preach prosperity gospel and sweeten God's words to get more money placed into their offering bags.
To be led Spiritually is to be like Christ, to be like Christ is to love what He loves and hate what He hates. When my dad was told by the pastor "We shouldn't hate one another, we should forgive!", In awe my father answered "Huh? Is it wrong to hate sin? What is there to forgive when there's no repentance?". Then they rebuke us by saying we have "righteous hatred", I don't even know what that means.
Matthew 18:15-17 NLT:
“If another believer sins against you, go privately and point out the offense. If the other person listens and confesses it, you have won that person back. But if you are unsuccessful, take one or two others with you and go back again, so that everything you say may be confirmed by two or three witnesses. If the person still refuses to listen, take your case to the church. Then if he or she won’t accept the church’s decision, treat that person as a pagan or a corrupt tax collector.
Ultimately the goal of the Gospel of Jesus is to make us repent, turn away and hate sin all together by believing and putting our trust in Jesus.
Matthew 5:17 NLT:
Don’t misunderstand why I have come. I did not come to abolish the law of Moses or the writings of the prophets. No, I came to accomplish their purpose
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2020.09.18 03:45 JpBlez5 Escape from sin

“When many days had passed, the Jews plotted to kill him, but their plot became known to Saul. They were watching the gates day and night in order to kill him, but his disciples took him by night and let him down through an opening in the wall, lowering him in a basket.” ‭‭Acts‬ ‭9:23-25‬ ‭ESV‬‬
These events happened after Saul was visited by Jesus. Saul began testifying the good news to the Jewish people. After Saul proved Jesus was the messiah, the Jews planned to kill him. But alas the lord helps save him.
This story represents how God helps us escape temptation. Saul’s enemies plotted to kill him. Likewise, our enemy the devil is a murder(John 10:10) who attempts to kill us spiritually through sin. As the word say the wages of sin is death. (Romans 6:23).
“The thief comes only to steal and kill and destroy. I came that they may have life and have it abundantly.” ‭‭John‬ ‭10:10‬ ‭ESV‬‬
But Saul was aware of the plot of his killers, and likewise we must be aware of the devil.
“Stay alert! Watch out for your great enemy, the devil. He prowls around like a roaring lion, looking for someone to devour. Stand firm against him, and be strong in your faith. Remember that your family of believers all over the world is going through the same kind of suffering you are.” 1 Peter‬ ‭5:8-9‬ ‭NLT‬‬
So as Saul’s enemies stalked the gates day and night in order to kill him, the devil will also tempt us night and day, and wait for the correct time to strike. A lion never attacks strong prey, but aims for the weak and vulnerable. So let us not let our guards down, leaving us vulnerable to temptation, but let us always be prepared, covered in the armor of God.
So Saul’s disciples got him passed his enemies through an opening in the wall, lowering him in a basket. Saul escaped his killers, but he needed help to do so. Saul ran away from those trying to kill him, so likewise, we must run from sexual sin.
Run from anything that stimulates youthful lusts. Instead, pursue righteous living, faithfulness, love, and peace. Enjoy the companionship of those who call on the Lord with pure hearts.” ‭‭2 Timothy‬ ‭2:22‬ ‭NLT‬‬
Likewise in order to escape the plots and temptation of the devil, which leads to death, we need help as well. This help could come from others(Proverbs 27:17), but are the help comes from Jesus, who helps us escape temptation.
The temptations in your life are no different from what others experience. And God is faithful. He will not allow the temptation to be more than you can stand. When you are tempted, he will show you a way out so that you can endure.” 1 Corinthians‬ ‭10:13‬ ‭NLT‬‬
Refer back to John 10:10 and Romans 6:23. While the first half of those verses talks about the devil, the second half of them talks about Jesus. As it says in John 10:10 and Romans 6:23, Jesus is the giver of true life and eternal life. Let us run to him to obtain this life, and have it to the full.
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2020.09.17 05:03 Ez3k1el Dark Night of the Soul

Greetings brothers and sisters, I pray that the Lord is with you all and He is helping you in your trials, your rests, and your studies and work.
I am writing this to allow for discussion and perhaps confession as well of a well-known thing that Christians often go through. The Dark Night of the Soul, a poem written by a Carmelite Monk known as St. John of the Cross. It is intimated that he wrote the poem while inside a prison, but here is the poem in general:
"One dark night, fired with love's urgent longings--ah, the sheer grace! -- I went out unseen, my house being now all stilled. In darkness, and secure, by the secret ladder, disguised, --ah, the sheer grace!-- in darkness and concealment, my house being now stilled. On that glad night, in secret, for no one saw me, nor did I look at anything with no other light or guide than the one that burned in my heart. This guided me more surely than the light of noon to where he was awaiting me -- him I knew so well -- there in a place where no one appeared. O guiding night! O night more lovely than the dawn! O night that has united the Lover with his beloved, transforming the beloved in her Lover. Upon my flowering breast which I kept wholly for him alone, there he lay sleeping, and I caressing him there in a breeze from the fanning cedars. When the breeze blew from the turret, as I parted his hair, it wounded my neck with its gentle hand, suspending all my senses. I abandoned and forgot myself, laying my face on my Beloved; all things ceased, I went out from myself, leaving my cares forgotten among the lilies."
The poem itself is interesting, but according to John of the Cross, it resembles our varying stages of spiritual maturity in Christ.
However, a question arises, is this really real? I can assure you that it is. The dark night of the soul, I believe, is God's tool for removing His presence for periods of time to test us and to shape us, and to remove incorrect understandings of Him and to pursue a deeper relationship with Him. Much like how God withdrew from Hezekiah to test Him (2 Chronicles 32:31), the tribulation of Job, Jesus being wracked with trembling before His death on the Cross (Luke 22:39-46), Jesus in the desert being tempted by the devil (Luke 4, Mark 1:12-13, Matthew 4), and many other instances that the Apostles no doubt went through, especially Paul.
I think at its base, the dark night of the soul is God's way of showing us to trust Him and His word even when feelings or thoughts or perceptions in regards to His presence, peace, and wisdom are not immediately felt or are seemingly at odds with our faith. In short, it is a letting go of our own self-sufficiency and trusting in His sufficiency, which is what Paul was talking about in Galatians in regards to no longer being under the law of sin and death, but in the new law of Christ. The old law is a mirror, showing us where we are dirty, but cannot save us and does not give us the power to be godly, for that we need Christ. I can tell you that going through this can strike at the very heart of salvation itself: are we trusting in ourselves or in Christ? Where does the "buck" stop so to speak? Are we relying on our feelings of acting in God's will and foregoing our minds, even withholding our minds from Christ? Are we relying on our own intellect and foregoing our hearts and learning how to love as He loves us, even withholding our hearts from Christ out of fear? All the while the devil seeks us out in these times of spiritual dryness to try and devour us (1 Peter 5:8) throwing our sins in our faces, causing all manner of chaos in our minds, and even causing dissonance in our assurance of faith in Christ. And this seems to be what God intends, our assurance of faith in Christ and His work on the Cross, that there is no work, no thought, no feeling, that ever makes us justified before Him. It is purely by grace through faith in Jesus Christ and His work on the cross plus nothing (Ephesians 2:8, ESV) For those of us who have studied the interplay between law and grace, we can understand this feeling of incompleteness, for if we measure the assurance of our faith by the works we do... We realize that our works are never enough and never will be enough, which will always cause us to doubt. The flip side is that those who understand God's love, but have a hard time understanding His holiness, this will cause a feeling of incompleteness too because we are measuring by our feelings and not seeing the fruit that God indicated through Paul (Galatians 5:22-26), which comes through the Holy Spirit through His teaching us the knowledge of the truth of God's wisdom as we read both the Old Testament and the New Testament (the interplay between the over-reliance of the mind and the heart is something that is on display throughout the book of Proverbs and Ecclesiastes).
In short, God pulls us through this kind of situation to divest ourselves of reliance upon our own cleverness (even if we have His wisdom in our minds) and our own perceptions of feelings (even if we feel love for Him), and to rest ourselves in Christ Jesus by way of His grace through faith in Him. Don't get me wrong, we need His wisdom and to listen to the Spirit to be prudent in applying it in our decisions, corrections, and our writings, and we certainly need to have the experiential joy of salvation and loving God so that we may love others as we love ourselves, but neither of these come from ourselves, but from, ultimately, to God who teaches us, loves us, and guides us through His Son in the power of the Holy Spirit, yet loves us enough to let us choose His way over our own way. In this way, we will love God with all of our heart, mind, soul, and strength, and love our neighbors as ourselves by His strength and His empowerment, rather than our own finite strength. In the words of a favorite Pastor of mine, "Your arms are too short to box with God."
One last thing, don't give up. Yeah, it's hard being in a spiritually dry state, but think of the alternative if you walk away. Do you remember the movie The Matrix? Think of the scene where Neo is in the car with Trinity and the other two, he's about to step out because he has fallen into disbelief and despair at what they were telling him. Remember what Trinity said? "You've been down that road before. You know exactly where it ends." You know where the road of unbelief and walking away leads, and I know I've no need to tell you. Cling to Christ, stay in the car, and He will get you through this.
Now I want to open the floor to you guys. Take this as an opportunity to confess and be open and honest about your struggles, "Stand firm against him, and be strong in your faith. Remember that your family of believers all over the world is going through the same kind of suffering you are." (1 Peter 5:9, NLT), to realize that Christ suffered the same thing, "This High Priest of ours understands our weaknesses, for he faced all of the same testings we do, yet he did not sin." (Hebrews 4:15, NLT), and that we ought to encourage one another, be encouraged by each other, and ultimately place the source of our comfort and encouragement in Jesus our Lord through such a time as this, "All praise to God, the Father of our Lord Jesus Christ. God is our merciful Father and the source of all comfort. He comforts us in all our troubles so that we can comfort others. When they are troubled, we will be able to give them the same comfort God has given us. For the more we suffer for Christ, the more God will shower us with his comfort through Christ. Even when we are weighed down with troubles, it is for your comfort and salvation! For when we ourselves are comforted, we will certainly comfort you. Then you can patiently endure the same things we suffer." (2 Corinthians 1:3-6, NLT)

Two resources:
https://cprc.co.uk/quotes/lutherassurance/
https://www.soulshepherding.org/growing-through-a-dark-night-of-the-soul/
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2020.09.15 09:26 btwn3and20charizards Has Catholicism replaced the Holy Spirit with Mary in their prayers? And were the heretical apparitions ever officially condemned?

I'm a Protestant who is interested in Catholicism due to several things: 1) a conviction that Jesus established ONE church, 2) seeing holes in the idea of "Sola Scriptura," 3) and recognizing the value of tradition.
But like many Protestants, I'm getting pretty hung up on the Mariology of the Catholic Church. I have two major concerns, and I hope that someone might be able to address them.
1) I was interested in the Holy Rosary, so I went to a Catholic bookstore and bought a rosary, along with a little booklet on how to pray it. Some of the prayers in it seem to be replacing the role of the Holy Spirit with Mary. For example:
a) in many of the mini-prayers underneath the scripture readings, we are told to ask Mary to "grant" to us different things, or to "help" us, or "obtain" something for us, or to "bless" us.
I'm fine with the idea of asking the saints to pray for us. But why do Catholics ask Mary to do more than that? So far as I understand the official Catholic position (and obviously I affirm this as a Protestant), Mary cannot herself grant any of our requests; she can only bring them before her Son in prayer, asking Him to help, as He did at Cana. So why are Catholics told to ask her to do that which is only in God's power to do?
b) In the "Hail Holy Queen," we are told to address Mary as "our hope; [our] most gracious Advocate (59)."
In Psalm 71:5, we are told that the Lord is our hope. Why, then, are we told to ascribe God's title to Mary?
The NIV, NLT, Berean, NET, and Weymouth versions all tell us that Jesus told His disciples that He would ask the Father to give us "another Advocate" (John 14:16). He is here of course referring to the Holy Spirit, not Mary. Why has the Catholic Church so elevated Mary that they ascribe one of the Holy Spirit's titles to her?
2) The Marian apparitions seem SUPER creepy. Many of the apparitions (and what they're reported to have said) sound really, really off. For example:
a) "if I do not want my son to abandon you, I am forced to pray to him myself without ceasing"
Except that in Hebrews 13:5, we are told that God will never leave us or forsake us, and this doesn't depend on Mary's prayers. Also, the idea that Mary cares more for our souls than Jesus does is way off-base.
b) "make sacrifices for sinners, for many souls go to hell because they have no one to sacrifice and pray for them"
There is only one reason that people go to hell: they reject the Son (John 3:36).
c) "I call upon you to open yourselves completely to me, so that through each of you I may be enabled to convert and save the world"
Mary does not save the world; Jesus did. And to "open yourselves completely" to any spirit except the Holy Spirit is straight up the occult.
d) "I have come to save the world through you"
Again, Mary did not come to save the world.
e) "I am here in the world to defeat [Satan]"
Nope, Jesus is.
f) "Those who place their confidence in me will be saved"
Proverbs 3:5 says that we are supposed to trust in the Lord with our whole heart. That doesn't leave any room for trusting in Mary for salvation.
g) "[Mary is the fourth] part of the Holy Trinity of God"
Well that's just blasphemy.
h) "[Mary] is elevated to the Throne of God.”
See above.
(Quotes sourced from Berean Beacon)
I can't find any information on the Catholic church's official position on these apparitions and what they apparently said to the recipients of the visions. I know that the Fatima vision was officially endorsed; were any of the other apparitions (or the false doctrines conveyed by them) officially condemned?
I know I've asked a lot of questions here. Any help on these issues will be much appreciated.
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2020.09.05 16:18 biblebytes Psalm 119 verse 88, Revive Me That I May Keep The Testimony From Your Mouth.

Psalm 119 verse 88, Revive Me That I May Keep The Testimony From Your Mouth.
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Psalm 119 verse 88, Revive Me That I May Keep The Testimony From Your Mouth.
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Psalm 119:88: Revive me according to Your lovingkindness, so that I may keep the testimony of Your mouth.
Before Pentecost and the giving of God’s indwelling Holy Spirit, the thought of being quickened was to receive supernatural help in service to our Lord enabling the faithful to bear affliction, to baffle the devil’s cunning, and to conquer sin. Today, after receiving new birth and God’s indwelling Spirit we are given the boundless energy of his grace. We can read about walking out this walk in the way of the Spirit in 2nd Timothy 2:19; “But God’s truth stands firm like a foundation stone with this inscription: ‘The LORD knows those who are his,’ and ‘All who belong to the LORD must turn away from evil.’” And in 2nd Thessalonians 1:12; “Then the name of our Lord Jesus will be honored because of the way you live, and you will be honored along with him. This is all made possible because of the grace of our God and our Lord Jesus Christ.” (NLT)
Jesus is the Word of God and is so identified in John 1:1 and Rev. 19:13 which adds new insights to what the psalmist requested when he asked that “he may keep the testimony of Your mouth.” On this side of the Cross, we are told that it is the indwelling Holy Spirit that gives us the godly words to speak; John 14:23-24,26 ". . . If anyone loves Me, he will keep My word; and My Father will love him, and We will come to him and make Our home with him. 24 He who does not love Me does not keep My words, and the word which you hear is not Mine but the Father’s, who sent Me. 14:26 But the Helper, the Holy Spirit, whom the Father will send in My name, He will teach you all things, and bring to your remembrance all things that I said to you.”
The Christian goal is not more life for the sake of our flesh, rather it should be so that we are enabled to be of greater service to our Lord. His lovingkindness will be expressed when we live life abundantly. This is one of the significant goals of our salvation, Jesus said in John 10:10:
. . . I have come that they may have life and that they may have it more abundantly.
The Spirit gives our minds the testimony of God to speak and share, which is confirmed in Romans 8:26: “In the same way the Spirit also helps our weakness; for we do not know how to pray as we should, but the Spirit Himself intercedes for us with groanings too deep for words.” Thus, let every word we read or hear be regarded as coming directly from the "mouth of God" Jesus affirms this doctrine in John 6:63 “It is the Spirit who gives life; the flesh profits nothing. The words that I speak to you are spirit, and they are life.”
Did you notice that the psalmist doesn’t pray for freedom from his woes, rather he asks for renewed life and a revived heart? Perhaps we should recall in verse 40 when David prayed to be Revived “in Your righteousness”; Here, the man of God appears to be entreating God to be spiritually energized and be enabled to keep God’s divine testimony. He is asking for the living principles of divine grace be imparted to His soul and that of all who believe that they may be raised to a spiritual presence that brings glory to God above the dismay of the natural men.
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